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In reply to: Jesus did say, however, that whoever had seen Him had seen the Father, so apparently whatever sense perceptory information His followers had was sufficient to communicate His divine nature to them.
Seeing and drawing are TWO different things. Does a picture capture the complete person of the person? If you have seen a picture of Christ, have you really seen Christ?--NO, merely an image made with a "imperfect" device that was man made.
In reply to: But can you speak His glory fully? If not, should you refrain from speaking about Him?
We can SPEAK about Him and His glory, because HE has given us His Word to do so and commands such. He did not give us His portrait.
In reply to: FYI - A couple of notes for you. I agree with your end conclusion about pictures of Christ, I just don't think this particular argument is compelling. Secondly, I actually don't necessarily disagree with the opinion that the fullness of time intentionally occurred prior to videography. However, [color:red]my reason would not be because it would have been sinful to record how Jesus appeared to us as the incarnate Word, but because it is better suited to the glory of God in bringing people to faith by His sovereign grace apart from sight, as Jesus said to Thomas, "because you have seen Me, you have believed. Blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed." (John 20:29)
I agree that God does not want all to be Thomas' and thus He did come in the fullness of time (Boston's quote in the original post applies here, "if it do stir up devotion, it is a worshiping by an image or picture," thus NOT by faith). Of course, I disagree with the statement of yours that says, "my reason would not be because it would have been sinful to record how Jesus appeared to us as the incarnate Word," because a photo (1) is made with an imperfect device, (2) could never properly and fully capture the incarnate Word, and (3) simply, but more importantly, against God's Holy Word (Exodus 20:15-16, ..."any likeness of any thing"...; Deuteronomy 4:15-16, ..."the similitude of any figure"...).
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