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Tom #22761 Wed Mar 02, 2005 9:55 AM
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If Pilgrim didn't like living in Canada, I doubt very much that he would be living here. Ask him what he thinks about Jasper.
I myself like living here, but that doesn't mean that I am not aware of a lot of the depravity that goes on here.
God made me a Canadian, so who am I to argue with Him. <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/coffee2.gif" alt="" />
Tom, you are totally wrong on all counts <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/nono.gif" alt="" /> except that it is true, I think Jasper, Alberta is one of the most beautiful and irenic places on earth.

God also brought you into this world a sinner.... so who are you to argue with Him over that either? <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/evilgrin.gif" alt="" />


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True godliness is a sincere feeling which loves God as Father as much as it fears and reverences Him as Lord, embraces His righteousness, and dreads offending Him worse than death~ Calvin
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Is DTS calvinist soteriologically?


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Here is their doctrinal statement

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We believe that when an unregenerate person exercises that faith in Christ which is illustrated and described as such in the New Testament, he passes immediately out of spiritual death into spiritual life, and from the old creation into the new; being justified from all things, accepted before the Father according as Christ His Son is accepted, loved as Christ is loved, having his place and portion as linked to Him and one with Him forever.

From the first 12 words of that paragraph, I would say not.

However, two paragraphs earlier we read:

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We believe that, owing to universal death through sin, no one can enter the kingdom of God unless born again; and that no degree of reformation however great, no attainments in morality however high, no culture however attractive, no baptism or other ordinance however administered, can help the sinner to take even one step toward heaven; but a new nature imparted from above, a new life implanted by the Holy Spirit through the Word, is absolutely essential to salvation, and only those thus saved are sons of God. We believe, also, that our redemption has been accomplished solely by the blood of our Lord Jesus Christ, who was made to be sin and was made a curse for us, dying in our room and stead; and that no repentance, no feeling, no faith, no good resolutions, no sincere efforts, no submission to the rules and regulations of any church, nor all the churches that have existed since the days of the Apostles can add in the very least degree to the value of the blood, or to the merit of the finished work wrought for us by Him who united in His person true and proper deity with perfect and sinless humanity (Lev. 17:11; Isa. 64:6; Matt. 26:28; John 3:7–18; Rom. 5:6–9; 2 Cor. 5:21; Gal. 3:13; 6:15; Eph. 1:7; Phil. 3:4–9; Titus 3:5; James 1:18; 1 Pet. 1:18–19, 23).

That doesn't negate the later paragraph though. It actually seems like the later paragraph is in response to Calvinism.


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I have been blessed to live in a country where I have freedom to practice what I believe. Yes it is true that that can change and will if some have their way. But you can say the same thing about the US on that one.
I also know that despite corruption in our government, they have been put their by God and as such though I will try to get a better political party in. In the mean time, I will continue to pray for them, because Scripture tells me too.

Canada is a very beautiful country.

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What about Prairie Bible? A former pastor of mine went there.Prairie Bible Institute Is that too gone to the dogs?


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If you believe what you like in the gospels, and reject what you don't like, it is not the gospel you believe, but yourself. Augustine of Hippo
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Tom said: Canada is a very beautiful country.

So is Tahiti from what I've seen and if i had to choose between the two I still think Tahiti might get my vote. But what has this to do with Bible Colleges? Unless there is a Tahiti Bible College then send me a brochure! <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/BigThumbUp.gif" alt="" />


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If you believe what you like in the gospels, and reject what you don't like, it is not the gospel you believe, but yourself. Augustine of Hippo
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What about Prairie Bible? A former pastor of mine went there.Prairie Bible Institute Is that too gone to the dogs?
I really can't say anything much about Prairie Bible Institute from anything objective. What I can tell you is that the few people I have met that have graduated or attended that school held to several "unacceptable" views. I will freely grant you that this may be no indication whatsoever about what was/is actually being taught there. When I have a little more time, I'll visit the link and see if anything strikes me either way. <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />


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I have a friend who is going to Prairie via correspondance. He's generally pleased, but one story sticks out in my mind.

In their Western history course they were taught an evolutionary view of the earth's history, replete with an evolutionary anthropology which is directly contradictory to Scripture. A paper my friend wrote for that class, which took a Biblical stand on some of these issues, was well-written but was given a failing mark by the teacher. So, my friend wrote the school and addressed some of these issues, pointing out that this teacher was teaching things contradictory to the school's statement of faith (sound familiar?). His failing mark was rescinded, but no straight answer was given about the errant teacher, etc.

They also work closely, at least in their correspondance department, with Moody, so take that for what it's worth.

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I visited the website and my preliminary assessment was that the infomation was very general. No specific "What we believe" statement or noticeable doctrinal slant...I don't know, just not very impressed. <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/shrug.gif" alt="" />


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I visited the website and my preliminary assessment was that the infomation was very general. No specific "What we believe" statement or noticeable doctrinal slant...I don't know, just not very impressed.
I agree. And if is of any help to you (it reinforced my previously negative view of the school due to the views held by some of its graduates), I found this more than interesting:


denominational unity: Prairie is neither exclusively identified or officially supported by any one denomination, giving you the opportunity to learn from and fellowship with Christians of other backgrounds and traditions.

top five denominations represented:
Inter or non-denominational
Baptist
Christian & Missionary Alliance
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A friend of mine (Pastor Bret Lovitz, known as Brother Bret on the Highway) sent me a web site that you can find a listing on seminaries.
http://people.bu.edu/bpstone/theology/grad.html
Please note, some in this list I would call (as Pilgrim did) cemeteries, rather that seminaries <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/yep.gif" alt="" />

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Whitfield Seminary in Lakeland, FL is getting a pretty good reputation in my PCA presbytery despite the fact that it's a non-accredited school and a lot of their degree programs are through correspondence. Solidly Reformed.

WTS
P.O. Box 6321
Lakeland, FL 33807-6321
Phone (813)683-7899

-Robin
(who is also considering WTS because it's affordable and has a pretty good rep)

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I would like some thoughts on the what we believe statement for Southwest Baptist Seminary in Fort Worth, TX. I'm just not sure where they are on election and free will, etc. Here is the link http://www.swbts.edu/about/grace.cfm


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I would like some thoughts on the what we believe statement for Southwest Baptist Seminary in Fort Worth, TX. I'm just not sure where they are on election and free will, etc. Here is the link http://www.swbts.edu/about/grace.cfm

Clearly, they are for unlimited atonement and the free will of fallen man to choose God prior to regeneration. Just about everything that statement says about election is classic apologetics against Calvinism.


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