I am trying to think of a diplomatic way to say this but I can't so here goes. Why does it matter? (And I've erased the rest of what I wrote because I'm already waving my ignorance around like a flag--again.) <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
Josh "...the word of God is not bound."--2 Timothy 2:9
It looks like ECT is regearing. We always have something to worry about when "false" theology is produced, proclaimed, and protected! While prepared for battle, let us see what changes DO really take place and see if it is REAL Christianity or .... still another gospel.
True godliness is a sincere feeling which loves God as Father as much as it fears and reverences Him as Lord, embraces His righteousness, and dreads offending Him worse than death~ Calvin
From this glowing report by Timothy George, I would have thought that Pope Benedict would have left the Church long ago. Maybe it’s Timothy George we need to worry about. Is a merger on the horizon? Found this article on the internet. Critique of Timothy George
Is B-16 really nothing to worry about and should we really rejoice that "this" pope is now leading the RCC faithful?
Pope John Paul II was so wildly successful in opposing and exalting himself above all that is called God or worshipped that the devil will continue the same strategy under Benedict 16. The plan is to beguile the world's religious leaders into a false ecumenical movement with the Pope as the official leader.
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He was my Pope, Too by By Uwe Siemon-Netto In Europe some time ago, a debate occurred in Protestant churches: Should John Paul II be considered the world's spokesman for all of Christianity? This was an absurd question. Of course he spoke for all believers.
Sorry about this. I just read it and realized that your comment was directed at me.
Why does it matter? As in Who cares what the Pope thinks? I know a lot of Catholic folks put a lot of stock in what he says and does but I don't so I asked: Why does it matter? Which is frequently a question that cannot be asked diplomatically.
If anything it bothers me less what he thinks considering he used to hold down the renamed office responsible for the Inquisition. But thats just me.
Josh "...the word of God is not bound."--2 Timothy 2:9
Whatever one thinks of Timothy George, the papacy, Benedict XVI, the Roman Catholic Church, or Evangelicals and Catholic Together, it makes about as much sense to say that it doesn't matter who sits in the chair of St. Peter as it does to say it doesn't matter who the President of the People's Republic of China is, or the Chairman of North Korea. The U.S.S.R. was an evil empire, guided by an evil ideology, and ruled by evil men; but it would be the height of absurdity to say (as some do) that there are no significant differences (i.e., differences that make a difference in the lives of people of nations) between Stalin and Gorbachev, or between Lenin and Kruschev. While I pray for a pope who will come to see the errors of Roman Catholicism and embrace the doctrines of sola scriptura and justification by faith alone (among many. many others), when/if that happens he will cease to be the pope, and the RCC will cease to exist as well. Until that happens I will judge popes by how much worse they could be. Imagine what the world would be like today if the last pope had been or the present pope was a Catholic liberal or modernist who leaned more towards the views of Karl Rahner, Hans Kung, or Rosemary Radford Ruether. Imagine the impact upon the world and upon Christendom of a pope who was not pro-life, not pro-family/marriage, or not anti-liberation theology. Doesn't make any difference you say? Get real!
The June 5 WHI broadcast What About The New Pope? tackled Benedict 16 on an issue-by-issue basis, as you recommend. Their concensus: on social issues, continuity with JP2; on doctrine, more clearly and distinctively RC than we've seen recently. They felt, and I agree, that this may make him less beguiling to doctrinally weak evangelicals than his predecessor.
BradJHammond said: Imagine what the world would be like today if the last pope had been or the present pope was a Catholic liberal or modernist who leaned more towards the views of Karl Rahner, Hans Kung, or Rosemary Radford Ruether. Imagine the impact upon the world and upon Christendom of a pope who was not pro-life, not pro-family/marriage, or not anti-liberation theology.
The Roman church would quickly disintegrate into chaos as many Liberal Protestant churches have.
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Doesn't make any difference you say? Get real!
The Antichrist will not proclaim any new doctrines that are certain to diminish his power and dominion. Get Real!
I certainly agree with this assessment. It is the insidious subtlety of the RCC that makes her so dangerous. Her appearance of conforming to the law and morality of Scripture is deceitful and disarming to those who do not know their need for redemption by Christ ALONE.
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"The weak you have not strengthened, nor have you healed those who were sick, nor bound up the broken, nor brought back what was driven away, nor sought what was lost; but with force and cruelty you have ruled them." Ezek 34:4
The leaders of the RCC continue to be (possibly even more so with this new pope) snakes and white sepulcures.
Denny
Roms 3:22-24
Denny
Simon Peter answered Him, "Lord, to whom shall we go? You have the words of eternal life." [John 6:68]
BradJHammond said: Imagine the impact upon the world and upon Christendom of a pope who was not pro-life, not pro-family/marriage, or not anti-liberation theology. Doesn't make any difference you say? Get real!
Good points Brad but you missed what I was getting at (or at least what I attempted to get at.) Those in "Christendom" as you call it who are actually Christian folks would probably run screaming from the Catholic church at that point. I don't know where they'd go, but I can't see a person who's actually saved buying into an agenda like that. Orthodox Wrong is still wrong--whatever his dogma. If its not based on the Word of God its still male bovine dung.
Josh "...the word of God is not bound."--2 Timothy 2:9
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