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Can God create an unmovable rock?

Do you mean, can God create a rock which He cannot move?

I'm sure that is easily answered by asking you if you or anyone you know can move a rock such as the "Rock of Gibraltar". The bigger question is, what will a puny man such as yourself do when you have to stand before the Almighty Lord of heaven and earth and try to explain why you haven't bowed before Him in fear, adoration, and worship while you gazed upon such immoveable objects which testify to His deity and Godhead? <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/scratchchin.gif" alt="" />

In His grace,

Pilgrim---Oh yeah!!!! Nailed it my brother!!! You shall bow to the Almighty Lord!!!

Tell me friend do you understand the concept of logical impossibilities? Such things as square circles? It correspond to such things as "Can God change the subject of this sentence to 'jello'?" Or can "God make light green gaseous thought colored balloons amongst bionic sheep?" They have no meaning as a sentence see Glenn Miller's take on the Big Rock.

Ultimately what does this say about you and your rebellious attitude toward the Sovereign Lord? Take heed to what others have said here.

Speaking of unmovable objects:

• God’s kingdom shall not be moved. Heb 12:28 Wherefore we receiving a kingdom which cannot be moved, let us have grace, whereby we may serve God acceptably with reverence and godly fear: Heb 12:29 For our God is a consuming fire
• Christians trusting in the “Rock of Ages” shall not be moved. Psa 16:8 I have set the LORD always before me: because he is at my right hand, I shall not be moved.
Psa 112:6 Surely he shall not be moved for ever: the righteous shall be in everlasting remembrance. Psa 112:7 He shall not be afraid of evil tidings: his heart is fixed, trusting in the LORD.
• Unfortunately, the non-Christian, in his pride “THINKS” – hath said in his heart, that he shall not be moved.
Psa 10:3 For the wicked boasteth of his heart's desire, and blesseth the covetous, whom the LORD abhorreth.
Psa 10:4 The wicked, through the pride of his countenance, will not seek after God: God is not in all his thoughts.
Psa 10:5 His ways are always grievous; thy judgments are far above out of his sight: as for all his enemies, he puffeth at them.
Psa 10:6 He hath said in his heart, I SHALL NOT BE MOVED: for I shall never be in adversity.
In reply to this last verse, Spurgeon commented: “O impertinence runs to seed! The man thinks himself immutable, and omnipotent too, for he, he is never to be in adversity. He counts himself a privileged man. He sits alone, and shall see no sorrow. His nest is in the stars, and he dreams not of a hand that shall pluck him thence. But let us remember that this man's house is built upon the sand, upon a foundation no more substantial than the rolling waves of the sea. He that is too secure is never safe. Boastings are not buttresses, and self-confidence is a sorry bulwark. This is the ruin of fools, that when they succeed they become too big, and swell with self-conceit, as if their summer would last for ever, and their flowers bloom on eternally. Be humble, O man! for thou art mortal, and thy lot is mutable.”


The contrast of the Godly and the Ungodly is notable in Psalm 1 Psa 1:1 Blessed is the man that walketh not in the counsel of the ungodly, nor standeth in the way of sinners, nor sitteth in the seat of the scornful.
Psa 1:2 But his delight is in the law of the LORD; and in his law doth he meditate day and night.
Psa 1:3 And he shall be like a tree planted by the rivers of water, that bringeth forth his fruit in his season; his leaf also shall not wither; and whatsoever he doeth shall prosper.
Psa 1:4 The ungodly are not so: but are like the chaff which the wind driveth away.
Psa 1:5 Therefore the ungodly shall not stand in the judgment, nor sinners in the congregation of the righteous.
Psa 1:6 For the LORD knoweth the way of the righteous: but the way of the ungodly shall perish.
Just note the firmness of the Godly- he is as firm as a tree planted by rivers of water…yet the ungodly will be blown away by the wind.
Do you think you are unmovable…and if so, what do you base it on? Are you Anchored in Jehovah…on the Rock of Ages. Or do you trust in your own pride?

Pro 10:25 As the whirlwind passeth, so is the wicked no more: but the righteous is an everlasting foundation.



As the old hymn says.
1. Glory hallelujah,
I shall not be moved
Anchored in Jehovah,
I shall not be moved;
Just like a tree that's planted by the waters,
I shall not be moved.

3. Though all hell assail me,
I shall not be moved;
Jesus will not fail me
I shall not be moved.
Just like a tree that's planted by the waters,
I shall not be moved.

4. Though the tempest rages,
I shall not be moved;
On the Rock of Ages
I shall not be moved.
Just like a tree that's planted by the waters,
I shall not be moved.


It is no cleverness to pose the question of the rock that cannot be moved. We need not even be on the topic of theology to be puzzled by the equally conceivable things as an unmovable object and an irresistible force –that has been a philosophical example for years.

The least of your concerns should be a rock. You should be wondering if you yourself can be moved toward salvation, if not, then eternal death shall be YOUR end?

BTW God does nothing against His very nature. The question is not CAN God, but WILL God, and the answer is NO, He will not create a rock so large He can not move for it is against His very nature to do so. For God to create such would be to announce He is not God. However, I will note that you did capitalize God as a proper name, and that you did associate creation with God. Those are No-No's for a true atheist. <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/bash.gif" alt="" />

I beleive in God, just not in blind faith.

Hi there,

I would just like to point out to you that the faith that I, and the rest of the Christians on this board have is not blind. I would like to tell you why it is not blind, and to do that, I will quote the words of two very God fearing men:

True religion is a living principle in the soul . . .
influencing the mind,
alluring the affections,
guiding the will,
directing and enlightening the conscience.

True religion is a supreme--not a subordinate matter.
It demands and obtains the throne of the soul. It guides
the whole character--and requires the whole man and all
his conduct to be in subordination.

True religion is not an occasional thing--but habitual.
It takes up its abode in the heart--and not merely
visits it at certain times and at particular seasons.

True religion is a happy--and not a melancholy thing.
It gives peace that passes understanding, and joy that
is unspeakable, and full of glory!

Christianity is very exclusive, and people understand it too well; they understand that it condemns their own behavior; they understand that it witnesses against their own sins, and summons them to judgment. They try to believe it is false and useless, because they don't like to believe it is true. An evil lifestyle must always raise an objection to this book (the Bible). Men question the truth of Christianity because they hate the practice of it.

And I have to ask you, does any other religion give you a good conscience in this life, a good hope in death, a good answer in the day of judgement? Our "blind faith" most certainly does <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

And all of these wonderful things are brought about through the the free gift of God which is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.

Sincerely in Him,
Dave

What makes you think that we believe in "blind" faith?

Our faith is not "blind"

In fact, according to God's Word, it is you who are blind:


It is when God opens a person's eyes to the truth of who He is that one truly can see.

Good post Dave! <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/applause.gif" alt="" />


John 9:39-41

Jesus said, “For judgment I have come into this world, that those who do not see may see, and that those who see may be made blind.”

Then some of the Pharisees who were with Him heard these words, and said to Him, “Are we blind also?”

Jesus said to them, “If you were blind, you would have no sin; but now you say, ‘We see.’ Therefore your sin remains.


Wes

My friend,
The faith we speak of is not blind. Jesus came to open the blind eyes.
He speaks of this in his old testament:
Isa 42:16 And I will bring the blind by a way that they knew not; I will lead them in paths that they have not known: I will make darkness light before them, and crooked things straight. These things will I do unto them, and not forsake them.
Isa 42:17 They shall be turned back, they shall be greatly ashamed, that trust in graven images, that say to the molten images, Ye are our gods.
Isa 42:18 Hear, ye deaf; and look, ye blind, that ye may see.




Mar 10:51 And Jesus answered and said unto him, What wilt thou that I should do unto thee? The blind man said unto him, Lord, that I might receive my sight.
Mar 10:52 And Jesus said unto him, Go thy way; thy FAITH hath made thee whole. And immediately he received his SIGHT, and followed Jesus in the way.

Luk 18:35 And it came to pass, that as he was come nigh unto Jericho, a certain blind man sat by the way side begging:
Luk 18:36 And hearing the multitude pass by, he asked what it meant.
Luk 18:37 And they told him, that Jesus of Nazareth passeth by.
Luk 18:38 And he cried, saying, Jesus, thou Son of David, have mercy on me.
Luk 18:39 And they which went before rebuked him, that he should hold his peace: but he cried so much the more, Thou Son of David, have mercy on me.
Luk 18:40 And Jesus stood, and commanded him to be brought unto him: and when he was come near, he asked him,
Luk 18:41 Saying, What wilt thou that I shall do unto thee? And he said, Lord, that I may receive my sight.
Luk 18:42 And Jesus said unto him, RECEIVE THY SIGHT: THY FAITH HATH SAVED THEE.
Luk 18:43 And immediately he received his sight, and followed him, glorifying God: and all the people, when they saw it, gave praise unto God.


We do not have “blind faith” but it is by our faith, that we are healed from our blindness. You see, put this way, “Blind faith” is an oxymoron.

Yet those who do not believe in the Lord Are blind ALREADY.
Mat 15:12 Then came his disciples, and said unto him, Knowest thou that the Pharisees were offended, after they heard this saying?
Mat 15:13 But he answered and said, Every plant, which my heavenly Father hath not planted, shall be rooted up.
Mat 15:14 Let them alone: they be blind leaders of the blind. And if the blind lead the blind, both shall fall into the ditch.

Joh 9:39 And Jesus said, For judgment I am come into this world, that they which see not might see; and that they which see might be made blind.
Joh 9:40 And some of the Pharisees which were with him heard these words, and said unto him, Are we blind also?
Joh 9:41 Jesus said unto them, If ye were blind, ye should have no sin: but now ye say, We see; therefore your sin remaineth.

You think that you are resisting our “blind faith” not knowing, that you are blind now and rejecting the only thing that can make you see.
Certainly you have heard before the hymn: amazing grace, how sweet the sound, that saved a wretch like me, I once was lost, but now am found TWAS BLIND BUT NOW I SEE.

I don't think we're using 'blind' in the same context. All i was saying is that although i believe in God im not immune to other theories or ideas or questioning things. I asked a question that came up in my philosophpy higher and was accused of [edited], insulting God and informed that eternal damnnation awaits me. Oh and yesterday i was an atheist promoter of Satanism.

Again, I would ask you, what makes you presume that any of us is in contrast to you?