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THERE ARE SIGNIFICANT NUMBERS OF REFORMED CHURCHES AT THE ASSISI INTERFAITH PRAYER ABOMINATION

http://www.cephasministry.com/news_pulse_6.2002.html

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ON JANUARY 24, 2002 THE VATICAN ADDED ANOTHER INTERFAITH CONFERENCE TO MANY PREVIOUS ONES in Assisi for which the Pope has become famous.

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Protestant bodies were represented by Konrad Kaiser, the secretary-general of the World council of Churches; Anglican Bishop Richard Garrard of Rome; Setri Nyomi of the World Alliance of Reformed Churches; George Freeman of the World Methodist Council; CECIL ROBECK OF THE PENTECOSTAL CHURCH; Alvin Jackson of the Disciples of Christ; Theodor Angelou of the European Baptist Federation; and Bert Beach of the Seventh-Day Adventists.

REMNANT CATHOLICS KNOW THAT IT IS MASONS AND ALL CONNECTED WITH THEM THAT ARE BEHIND IT

http://www.dailycatholic.org/issue/2002Apr/apr12mdi.htm

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The endorsement of John XXIII and his "updating" of the Church, and the sheer joy the Masons must have had with the election and papacy of Paul VI are evidence enough that the direction of the Church today is abominable. Masons are pagans and satanists, and if they rejoice over what is happening to the Church today

FROM THIS REMNANT CATHOLICS ARE ALSO AWARE THAT IT IS SPREADING IT'S TENTACLES OUT INTO EVERY FORM OF SYNCHRETISM WITH PAGANISM

From Novus Ordo Watch: Aachen Ecumenical Abomination in 2003, Part 2

http://www.novusordowatch.org/aachen2.htm

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Pagan idols: Catholics died rather than worship them, so what is this doing in a Catholic Church?



THE UNITED NATIONS IS PART OF ENDORSING AND PARTICIPATING IN THIS ASSISI ABOMINATION WHICH IS STILL CONTINUING CURRENTLY

From the United Nations web site:

http://www.idpvigil.com/assisi.html

866 United Nations Plaza, Suite 575
New York, NY 10017 USA

In 2005, the 10th Annual International Festival for Peace in Assisi, Italy bagan on the International Day of Peace, 21 September.

The holy city of Assisi, home of St. Francis, where Pope John Paul II held two major interfaith days of prayers for peace (1986 and 2002), embraced the 24 hour IDP Vigil and conference. Thank you for joining us on this momentous occasion in one of the world’s most sacred cities.

The International Festival for Peace: The Festival featured Italian national and international performing artists. The Festival was in its 10th year and its organizers, the United Artists for Peace, decided to coordinate its date to correspond with the IDP. View the schedule of performing artists and events for the 10th Annual Festival for Peace. Also see the official website for the festival: www.peacefestival.com.

IDP Vigil: The beautiful church of Santa Maria Maggiore, Assisi’s oldest standing church, hosted the 24-hour Vigil observance. All faiths are welcome. Special prayers were said at specified times for countries in conflict. View the schedule.

IDP Vigil Conference: Two panel discussions were included in the program with leaders from religious, spiritual and interfaith groups and from countries in conflict. The panels were aimed at sharing information about successful networking techniques and the benefits of using spiritual observations in conflict areas. View more detailed information about IDP Vigil Panel Discussions and speakers.

Panel I Topic: What are the roles and opportunities presented to religious, spiritual and interfaith leaders and communities by the International Day of Peace?

Panel II Topic: What are the opportunities presented by the International Day of Peace and the IDP Vigil in particular, to religious, spiritual and interfaith leaders in regions of conflict?

Last updated on March 4, 2006

[end of United Nations article]

Rv:13:
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6 And he opened his mouth unto blasphemies against God, to blaspheme his name and his tabernacle and them that dwell in heaven.
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11 ¶ And I saw another beast coming up out of the earth: and he had two horns, like a lamb: and he spoke as a dragon.
12 And he executed all the power of the former beast in his sight. And he caused the earth and them that dwell therein to adore the first beast, whose wound to death was healed.
13 And he did great signs, so that he made also fire to come down from heaven unto the earth, in the sight of men.
14 And he seduced them that dwell on the earth, for the signs which were given him to do in the sight of the beast: saying to them that dwell on the earth that they should make the image of the beast which had the wound by the sword and lived.
15 And it was given him to give life to the image of the beast: and that the image of the beast should speak: and should cause that whosoever will not adore the image of the beast should be slain.
16 And he shall make all, both little and great, rich and poor, freemen and bondmen, to have a character in their right hand or on their foreheads:
17 And that no man might buy or sell, but he that hath the character, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

Steve,

I'm afraid I'm just now getting a bit of "discenment" about where you are coming from.


The "Reformed" churches that are members of WARC (World Alliance of Reformed Churches) are hardly "reformed". Their unity consists only of a common and very liberal liberation theology.


This is new? The Roman Catholic Church began its love of pagan syncretism hundreds of years ago with its Mariology and Saint adoration. I think it would be very beneficial to you if you knew at least a little about what a Reformed Church truly is.

Denny

Romans 3:22-24

I hope we can stay on topic here. It is not about centuries old polemics and hatreds and internecine wars. It is about the very real and very current ecumenical movement. Personally I don't guess about other people and call it discernment.

The ecumenical movement threatens to be very dangerous very soon. Quite frankly it originated in the context of the WCC. But nevertheless concerning where it originated from, it is here and it is getting political backing, as I show in the original post, on a world wide scale. This is going to affect us all.

One other thing, there is a lot of information condensed here, please read the whole post and go to the links and read those pages as well to make an informed comment. This subject is going to be of more importance than most realize in the very near future. The war in Iraq is way out of hand and there are a lot of agendas involved that have relevance to this thread. Please, may we have an on topic discussion. Thank you.

Steve,

To keep things in order, please reply to my post, not the post on the top of the list.


The topic is ecumenism, not the war in Iraq. Are you a Roman Catholic or not and if so I'm not going to get involved with a dispute between you and your church.


There is not a doubt in my mind about this.

Denny

Romans 3:22-24

This thing will hit it's full stride when the excuse that all must do this in order to end the war and bring peace is made.

See this article for more complicity, from the link below:

? World Methodists have unanimously approved a resolution authorizing further dialogue with the Roman Catholic Church, with the stated aim of ?full communion in faith, mission and sacramental life.?



http://www.umc.org/site/c.gjJTJbMUIuE/b....al_dialogue.htm

On January 1, 2006 Benedict XVI declared in his World Day of Peace Address (World Day of Peace is a continuation of the Assisi interfaith prayer meetings) that believers in Christ must place themselves in cooperation with other Christians and followers of other religions for the sake of peace. Given the example of the Assisi gatherings that equals synchretism and apostasy.



From the below link (note the list of participants):


"Such prayer obliges us to be instruments of peace. "


http://orthodoxeurope.org/page/5/5.aspx


Church Leaders United against War in Iraq

Statement adopted in Berlin, Germany, February 5, 2003, following a consultation of church leaders from the U.S., Europe, and the Middle East
1. As European church leaders, in consultation with councils of churches in the USA and the Middle East, we remain extremely concerned with the continued calls for military action against Iraq by the US and some European governments. As people of faith, our love of neighbour compels us to oppose war and to seek peaceful resolution of conflicts. As churches we pray for peace and freedom, justice and safety for the people of Iraq and in the Middle East as a whole. Such prayer obliges us to be instruments of peace. …


Participants from Europe:
Rev. Dr Konrad Raiser, general secretary of the World Council of Churches
Rev. Dr Keith Clements, general secretary of the Council of European Churches
Präses Manfred Kock, president of the Council of the Evangelischen Kirche in Deutschland (EKD)
Bishop Dr. Walter Klaiber, head of the Arbeitsgemeinschaft Christlicher Kirchen in Deutschland (ACK) and Evangelical-Methodist Church (Germany)
Rev. Dr Jean-Arnold de Clermont, president of the Protestant Federation of France
Bishop Mag. Herwig Sturm, Evangelical Church of the Augsburg and Helvetic Confessions in Austria
Rev. Thomas Wipf, president of the Federation of Swiss Protestant Churches
Bishop Jonas Jonson, Bishop of the Church of Sweden, and Rev. Kjell Jonasson, Church of Sweden
Rev. Canon Dr Trond Bakkevig, Church of Norway
Archbishop Jukka Parma, Evangelical Lutheran Church of Finland
Bishop Karsten Nissen, Evangelical Lutheran Church in Denmark
Dr. Alison Elliot, Church of Scotland and Churches Together in Scotland (ACTS)
Rev Arie W. van der Plas, Reformed Churches in the Netherlands and Uniting Protestant Churches in the Netherlands
Archbishop Feofan, Russian Orthodox Church, Archbishop of Berlin and Germany
Bishop Athanasius of Achaja, Church of Greece
Mr. Thor-Arne Präis, director of Action by Churches Together (ACT) International, Geneva
Participant from the Middle East Council of Churches:
Rev. Dr. Nuhad Daoud Tomeh, representing the General Secretariat of the Middle East Council of Churches
Participants from the National Council of Churches USA:
Dr. Bob Edgar, general secretary, National Council of Churches of Christ in the USA
James Winkler, general secretary, General Board of Church and Society of the United Methodist Church, USA
Rev. Dr Rebecca Larson, executive director, Division for Church and Society, Evangelical Lutheran Church in America, USA

Steve,

You didn't answer my question.


Also in this article you linked is this:

"Members also passed a resolution authorizing the association of the council and its member churches with the agreement on the Doctrine of Justification approved by the Lutheran World Foundation and the Catholic Church on October 31, 1999"

Please read this article from the Berean Beacon website.

http://www.bereanbeacon.org/articles_new.htm

Just click on the article "Catholic-Lutheran Accord"

Denny

Romans 3:22-24

The Banner that the United Nations is using for this IDP Vigil, International Day of Peace Vigil is linked on their site:

http://www.idpvigil.com/assisi.html


In 2005, the 10th Annual International Festival for Peace in Assisi, Italy bagan on the International Day of Peace, 21 September.

That banner is on:


http://www.peacefestival.com./

When you enter the English language site:

http://www.peacefestival.com./festival_eng.html

you find:


The International Peace Festival The goal of the festival is to promote issues concerning the culture of peace, solidarity and ecology in terms of different social, political and religious views. This will be achieved through cultural and artistic presentations, culminating in national and international musical events that will be held in Assisi, a city that, more than any other one in the world, embodies these very same ideals.
The Festival focuses the attention on the 21 st of September, UN International Day of Peace, a worldwide day dedicated to Peace and Non-Violence, with the aim to let community know the engagement of the United Nations pro Peace in the world and to promote the Millennium Development Goals – Target 2015

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Note this from above:

"solidarity and ecology in terms of different social, political and religious views...Target 2015"

Read one world religion, all for the sake of "peace and security".

1Thes:5:3:
3 For when they shall say: Peace and security; then shall sudden destruction come upon them, as the pains upon her that is with child, and they shall not escape.

Steve,

Have you given any thought to the possibility that you are "preaching to the choir" here? <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/Ponder.gif" alt="" />

Are you familiar with what The Highway is grounded upon theologically, perhaps from being somewhat familiar with the nearly 1200 articles, books and sermons on the main website?

Doing a search on The Highway, using the "Google" search feature on the main page for "Ecumenism" turned up this: Search results for Ecumenism on The Highway.

In His grace,

I am glad to hear that. My point remains that this isn't something that is a static thing that is understood and then conveniently dismissed. Perhaps you have already covered that as well. In any case, we all need to remain vigilant, as I am sure you know. In the near future (and of course I set no dates) God's elect will face hard choices; of that I am certain.

In Christ and His Word,

Steve

Here it is the two beasts of the 13th chapter of the book of the Revelation


The Frankish Papacy's
Involvement in Judeo-Masonry


[Excerpts from "The Two Babylons," Bible Believer's Newsletter, #167, Sydney, 2002.]


http://www.orthodoxfaith.com/ecumenism_papacy_masonry.html
Brief quote:

The Pope's Attitude towards Judaism
Journalist Robert K. Dahl says that Pope John Paul II's acquiescence to Judaism "has the appearance of treason, regardless of intent" (The Remnant, [St. Paul, MN], April 15, 1998). Indeed, in 1999, when John Paul II made the unprecedented decree that "the seeds infected with anti-Judaism" must "never again take root. . . " he was forbidding opposition to the religion of the Pharisees and proscribing the basis of the mission of Jesus Christ (Statement of Pope John Paul II in his "General Audience" at Rome, April 28, 1999, as reported in the official Vatican newspaper, L'Osservatore Romano, May 5, 1999).
Since adherents of the religion of Judaism do not have faith in either Jesus or the Old Testament Law and prophets, but in the Talmudic and Kabbalistic traditions, exactly what faith is it that John Paul II shares with these "elder brothers" of his?


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from The Jewish Religion: Its Influence Today
by Elizabeth Dilling


Dilling VI: Judaism not Monotheistic

http://www.come-and-hear.com/dilling/chapt06.html

Brief quote:


To many Christians, Judaism is a monotheistic religion, based on belief in one Supreme Being and adherence to the Old Testament, with the Messiah still to come. This is not so.
Double-talk is the trade mark of Talmudic Judaism, called by Christ the "Synagogue of Satan." (Revelation 2:9, 3:9) Talmudists sanctimoniously declare that their devotion to "pure monotheism," or the "unity of God," precludes their belief in His Personality being Incarnate in Jesus Christ, His Son, and we Christians keep silent.
The Unity of God to which they refer is actually the oneness of the Pantheistic "en sof," a mass without a "Chief Engineer." This is the "unity of nature" in which the Pagans believed. For every form of spirit invocation, and for the deification of man, that is Judaistic Talmudism, a religion of polytheism, or many gods. Slyly, the polytheists say what they mean. We do not understand them.
Take any of the modern heresies, the "new" religions our tired Christians like to think were just evolved; you will find them all in Talmudism and its collection of ancient Old Testament paganism. The Jewish Cabala with its non-existence of evil, its deification of man, is a source book for modem "isms," the sources of which are largely unknown in modern times.


Dilling VII: Judaism and Paganism

http://www.come-and-hear.com/dilling/chapt07.html

Brief quote:

TThe commonest statements of all Jewish authorities attribute many customs and doctrines of “Judaism” to Persian, Babylonian, Assyrian sources. The leading paganisms of all the centuries have been gathered up and treasured by Pharisaic Talmudism. The long stay of Pythagoras in Babylon, his number and letter magic; the transmigration of souls out and back into the “En Sof;” procreation being the hub and center of the universe, a man’s first duty being to get souls out of “guf” and if this is impossible to keep on copulating in honor of the procreative powers; the selflessness of the universe; the multitude of spirits in charge of all functions; Sun-worship; veneration of the Moon; man as a spark of the divine capable of pushing the universe with his own illuminated inflated “knowing” self (Lucifer means “light-bearer”) — all this forms the old Nature religions of paganism, seeking power through abracadabra, invocations, fasting and ecstasies to attract the spirits of the unseen world. It is all as old as the Old Testament, and as current.
So-called “Judaism” is nothing but Babylonian Talmudic Pharisaism, which at base is crass paganism, pantheistic atheism, a conglomeration of all the forms of paganism concocted through the centuries. New descriptions concocted for this very old satanism, such as “immanence” (Spinoza); “emanation” (Talmudic Cabala); “dialectical materialism” (Marx) merely dress up old pagan concepts.


The above from Elizabeth Dilling are from her complete work:

The Jewish Religion: Its Influence Today - Elizabeth Dilling

http://www.come-and-hear.com/dilling/index.html


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The Current Rebuilding of the Temple (THE ABOMINATION OF DESOLATION) in Jerusalem

http://www.templeinstitute.org/

http://occult-advances.org/temple.shtml

Steve,


As I said before, neither is there a doubt in my mind about the "hard choices".


We've already shown you that we consider ecumenism to be a great evil here on this website. What would you have us to do? Stand on a busy highway? Perhaps leap from a building with a protest sign?

Steve, is your presense here on the Highway perhaps a bit of "ecumenism" of your own? While I was looking through the Orthodox Church website I found these gems of wisdom in the article "I Believe":

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Salvation is not imposed upon him in spite of himself as Augustine of Hippo's and John Calvin's doctrine of predestination would have it, nor is it obtained solely by the endeavors of human will, as Pelagius taught. Salvation is synergetic; that is, man co-operates in the work of his salvation.

I believe that my worship and veneration of the saints is a well-pleasing worship offered of God since it is because of Him and for His sake that I worship them.

I venerate the holy icons by prostrating myself before them, by kissing them, by showing them a "relative worship" (as the definition of the Seventh Ecumenical Council says) while confessing that only the Most Holy Trinity is to be offered adoration.

I believe and I confess that when we venerate and kiss the holy relics, the grace of God acts upon our total being, that is, body and soul, and that the bodies of the saints, since they are the temples of the Holy Spirit (I Cor. 6:9),

Therefore, the Holy Scriptures themselves are a part of Holy Tradition which is a unified whole and we must accept it as a whole, and not choose bits and parts according to our private opinions or interpretations.

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I'm afraid that we will not find the unity you seek, simply by agreeing that there are troubled times for remnant Christians ahead, or a solidarity of belief in the doctrine of the Holy Trinity.

Denny

Romans 3:22-24