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Have research how they got rich in the Lord?
Do you know mostly 75% of these preachers were raise out of the ghetto , and poverty families, sick, depressed, busted and disgusted lives , before they got blessed, and proved God to His written Word?

I know alot of people who would wish, and pray pastors and Evnagelists should be so poor like Jesus that they can't even buy a bus ticket to get to church to be able to serve God.
Most pastor I know don't like poverty, and just having just enough, they like to live in aboundance so they can be a blessing to other and don't starve to death, like other poor pastors did in the past.

From your reply, I am really wondering if you are interested in finding out the truth. It isn't that you are not free to disagree with Robin; it is just that when you disagree you should at least do it respectfully and with proof.
In the way you did it, you have basically called Robin a liar.
Having been in that movement myself I know how strongly they can hold someone. So maybe part of the reason for your response is because of that.

I want to ask you a question related to false gospel.

Is the following the true gospel or not?

(May not be exact quote because it is from memory) "When you get the Holy Ghost in your life, He doesn't just come to reside in you. You actually become the Holy Ghost!" This statement was made by either Kenneth Copeland, or Kenneth Hagin.

One thing I notice about many in the Word of Faith movement is that although they say they believe in the Trinity, when they actually get into what the Trinity actually is, it is a lot different than the Trinity that the Christian Church has always believed in.
If you request it, I (or someone else) can provide an example.

At any rate, even you must admit that when you compare the gospel preached by Word of Faith ministers against the gospel preached by ministries such as The Highway, there is a huge difference.
So much so that one must choose which one they believe is the true biblical gospel.

Tom

When you say "proved God to His written Word" is that the same as some say "name it and claim it?"

No one I know would want to see their pastor living in poverty. To make an accusation that people actually pray that their pastor would be poor is ridiculous. Whether a pastor is from the ghetto or not his success in the work of ministry should not be measured by riches. The real question should be "is he true to God's Word or is he a false teacher?"

Evangelist, you have received many responses in this thread from people who have tried to help you see the qualities that are needed to be a faithful minister of God's Word. However, you keep defending those who are clealy false teachers. In an effort to address what defines a false teacher I'm enclosing the following article written by Thomas Brooks. What he wrote back in the sevententh century is still applicable today.

7 Characteristics of false Teachers by Thomas Brooks (1608-1680)

That Satan labours might and main, by false teachers, which are his messengers and ambassadors, to deceive, delude, and for ever undo the precious souls of men (Acts 20:28-30; 2 Cor. 11:13-15; Eph. 4:14; 2 Tim. 3:4-6; Titus 1:11,12; 2 Peter 2:18,19): "I have seen folly in the prophets of Samaria; they prophesied in Baal, and caused my people Israel to err" (Jer. 23:13). "The prophets make my people to err" (Micah 3:5). They seduce them, and carry them out of the right way into by-paths and blind thickets of error, blasphemy, and wickedness, where they are lost forever. "Beware of false prophets, for they come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves" (Mat. 7:15). These lick and suck the blood of souls: "Beware of dogs, beware of evil workers, beware of the concision" (Phil. 3:2). These kiss and kill; these cry, Peace, peace, till souls fall into everlasting flames, &c., Proverbs 7.

Now, the best way to deliver poor souls from being deluded and destroyed by these messengers of Satan is, to discover them in their colors, that so, being known, poor souls may shun them, and fly from them as from hell itself.

Now you may know them by these characters following:

THE FIRST CHARACTER
False teachers are men-pleasers (Gal. 1:10; 1 Thess. 2:1-4). They preach more to please the ear than to profit the heart: "Which say to the seers, See not; and to the prophets, Prophecy no unto us right things: speak to us smooth things; prophecy deceits"' (Isa. 30:10). "A wonderful and horrible thing is committed in the land: the prophets prophesy falsely, and the priests bear rule by their means, and my people love to have it so. And what will you do in the end thereof?" (Jer. 5:30,31). They handle holy things rather with wit and dalliance (playful come-on) then with fear and reverence. False teachers are soul-undoers. They are like evil chirurgeons, that skin over the wound, but never heal it. Flattery undid Ahab and Herod, Nero and Alexander. False teachers are hell's greatest enrichers. Non acerba, sed blanda, Not bitter, but flattering words do all the mischief, said Valerian, the Roman emperor. Such smooth teachers are sweet soul-poisoners (Jer. 23:16,17).

THE SECOND CHARACTER
False teachers are notable in casting dirt, scorn, and reproach upon the persons, names, and credits of Christ's most faithful ambassadors. Thus Korah, Dathan, and Abiram charged Moses and Aaron that they took too much upon them, seeing all the congregation was holy (Num. 16:3). You take too much state, too much power, too much honour, too much holiness upon you; for what are you more than others, that you take so much upon you? And so Ahab's false prophets fell foul on good Micaiah, paying of him with blows for want of better reasons (1 Kings 22:10-26). Yea, Paul, that great apostle of the Gentiles, had his ministry undermined and his reputation blasted by false teachers: "For his letters"' say they, "are weighty and powerful, but his bodily presence is weak and contemptible" (2 Cor. 10:10). They rather contemn him than admire him; they look upon him as a dunce rather than a doctor. And the same hard measure had our Lord Jesus from the Scribes and Pharisees, who laboured as for life to build their own credit upon the ruins of his reputation. And never did the devil drive a more full trade this way than he does in these days (Matt. 27:63). Oh! the dirt, the filth, the scorn that is thrown upon those whom the world is not worthy. I suppose false teachers mind not that saying of Austin, Quisquis volens detrahit famae, nolens addit mercedi meae, He that willingly takes from my good name, unwillingly adds to my reward.

THE THIRD CHARACTER
False teachers are venters of the devices and visions of their own heads and hearts. "Then the Lord said unto me, The prophets prophesy lies in my name: I sent then not, neither have I commanded them, neither spake unto them: they prophecy unto you a false vision and divination, and a thing of nought, and the deceit of their heart (Jer. 14:14); "Thus saith the Lord of hosts, Harken not unto the words of the prophets that prophecy unto you; they make you vain: they speak a vision of their own heart, and not out of the mouth of the Lord" (Jer. 23:16). Are there not multitudes in this nation whose visions are but golden delusions, lying vanities, brain-sick phantasies? These are Satan's great benefactors, and such as divine justice will hang up in hell as the greatest malefactors, if the physician of souls does not prevent it.

THE FOURTH CHARACTER
False teachers easily pass over the great and weighty things both of law and gospel, and stand most upon those things that are of the least moment and concernment to the souls of men. "Now the end of the commandment is charity out of a pure heart, and of a good conscience, and of faith unfeigned; from which some have swerved, have turned aside unto vain jangling, desiring to be teachers of the law, and understand neither what they say nor whereof they affirm" (1 Tim. 1:5-7). "Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of mint, and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith; these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone" (Matt. 23:2,3). False teachers are nice in the lesser things of the law, and as negligent in the greater. "If any man teach otherwise, and consent not to wholesome words, even the words of our Lord Jesus Christ, and to the doctrine which is according to godliness, he is proud, knowing nothing, but doting about questions and strife of words, whereof cometh envy, strife, railings, evil surmisings, perverse disputings of men corrupt minds, and destitute of the truth, supposing that gain is godliness: from such withdraw thyself" (1 Tim. 6:3-5). If such teachers are not hypocrites in grain, I know nothing, Romans 2:22. The earth groans to bear them, and hell is fitted for them, Matt. 24:32.

THE FIFTH CHARACTER
False teachers cover and color their dangerous principles and soul-impostures with very fair speeches and plausible pretenses, with high notions and golden expressions. Many in these days are bewitched and deceived, viz. illumination, revelation, deification, fiery triplicity, &c. As strumpets paint their faces, and deck and perfume their beds, the better to allure and deceive simple souls (Gal. 6:12; 2 Cor. 11:13-15; Rom. 16:17,18; Mat. 16:6,11,12; 7:15), so false teachers will put a great deal of paint and garnish upon their most dangerous principles and blasphemies, that they may the better deceive and delude poor ignorant souls. They know sugared poison goes down sweetly; they wrap up their pernicious, soul-killing pills in gold.

THE SIXTH CHARACTER
False teachers strive more to win over men to their opinions, than to better them in their conversations. "Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye compass sea and land to make one proselyte, and when he is made, ye make him twofold more the child of hell than yourselves" (Matt. 24:17). They busy themselves most about men's heads. Their work is not to better men's hearts, and mend their lives; and in this they are very much like their father the devil, who will spare no pains to gain proselytes.

THE SEVENTH CHARACTER
False teachers make merchandise of their followers. "But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction. And many shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of. And through covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you: whose judgment now of a long time lingereth not, and their damnation slumbereth not" (2 Peter 2:1-3). They eye your goods more than your good; and mind more the serving of themselves, than the saving of your souls. So they may have your substance, they care not though Satan has your souls (Rev. 18:11-13). That they may the better pick your purse, they will hold forth such principles as are very indulgent to the flesh. False teachers are the great worshippers of the golden calf (Jer. 6:13).

Now, by these characters you may know them, and so shun them, and deliver your souls out of their dangerous snares; which that you may, my prayers shall meet-yours at the throne of grace.

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Hopefully the list in the above article will help you see this more clearly. Beware of those who are false teachers.... for they will lead you astray.


Wes

I would say not true , because the gospel should be Christ and the relationship with Him , which these tv station preach.

No it is not a claim it name it, it is this what I mean:
Mal:3:8: Will a man rob God? Yet ye have robbed me. But ye say, Wherein have we robbed thee? In tithes and offerings.
Mal:3:9: Ye are cursed with a curse: for ye have robbed me, even this whole nation.
Mal:3:10: Bring ye all the tithes into the storehouse, that there may be meat in mine house, and prove me now herewith, saith the LORD of hosts, if I will not open you the windows of heaven, and pour you out a blessing, that there shall not be room enough to receive it.

You sure posted alot of scriptures.

2Co:3:6: Who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life.

But I think alot of people don't know that not all are not spiritually led.

I'm becoming of the rapid opinion that you wish to "evangelize alot" without understanding, nor with the slightest respect for those with whom you are "talking, and criticizing alot" to?

Hip-Hop, TBN and rap music is much like this. <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/bigglasses.gif" alt="" />

Denny

Romans 3:22-24

You've placed three negatives in that sentence so I don't know what you're trying to say. Could you explain yourself please?


Wes

What I meant is that some people might think some shows or christian programs are not spiritually led, and have another gospel , like the rock music or hip hop shown on these christian channels.

Evangelist, I will reply to each of your questions in short order, then address what I consider to be the issues of primary importance.


Yes, I believe that I have sincerely tried to understand what Copeland has said. I am certainly not trying to mis-understand him or mis-interpret his words. Why would I waste my time doing that? I am open to the possibility that my interpretation of his words is mistaken, and I would be willing to acknowledge that my interpretation is mistaken if someone (perhaps you or Copeland) were to provide a more plausible or compelling alternative. Which quotes do you believe that I have misunderstood or misinterpreted? Why? What alternative interpretations would you suggest? Please be specific.


Well, that depends on whether my interpretation of what I posted is correct or not. According to my understanding, each quote makes a false or heretical assertion, and a couple are examples of outright blasphemy. Neither my heart nor my mind is "open" to heresy, falsehoods, or blasphemy.

As a sinner, I am certainly susceptible to such things, but I would never knowingly or deliberately let my guard down and seriously consider adopting views that contradict the Scriptures or which the Church has condemned as heretical. In that sense, my heart is not open to what I posted. If you can suggest an interpretation of Copeland's words that does not contradict Scripture or the historic doctrines of the Church, then I will certainly approach his views with an open heart and mind. My mind and heart are open to the possibility that I have misunderstood or misinterpreted his words, and I am waiting patiently for someone to show me (not merely assert) that I have.


I do not believe that I am quoting him out of context. I have listened to Copeland many times on television and have read several books and articles which have presented and analyzed his views on these subjects in detail. I chose each of the quotes as representative of many other statements that Copeland has made repeatedly over the years. Each quote is consistent and coheres with everything he has taught over the last three decades. They are also consistent and cohere with what other Word-Faith preachers, such as Kenneth Hagin, Paul Crouch, Benny Hinn, Fred Price, Joyce Meyer, Creflo Dollar, and Joel Osteen teach.

Nothing in the immediate context of these quotes would alter my understanding of them in the least; in fact, my interpretation of them has been determined precisely by the original context in which they appeared. If Copeland had been referring to the errors or false doctrines of others, or if his statments were nothing more than illustrations of false teachings which Copeland himself was renouncing or condemning, then my selective quotations would indeed be distorting, misleading, and out of context. However, the fact of the matter is that Copeland stands behind each of these statements and says these kinds of things all the time, and he has never, to my knowledge, recanted any of them, even when he has been directly challenged or confronted. The burden of proof is on you to demonstrate that Copeland means something other than what he is saying. I am simply taking him at his word.


I don't think I am missing any of the humor in Copeland's statements either. I have actually heard recordings of a number of these statements, and the humorous tone of Copeland's voice is unmistakable, as for example, when he says: "When I read in the Bible where he [Jesus] says, 'I Am,' I just smile and say, 'Yes, I Am, too!'" I understand that Copeland is attempting to be humorous; but, I do not find anything about this blasphemous statement funny. And however humorous Copeland's tone, he means what he says and intends it to be taken quite seriously: he believes that he and all other Christians are "little gods": "Every Christian is a god...You don’t have a god in you, you are one" (Kenneth Copeland, The Force of Love (Fort Worth, TX: Kenneth Copeland Ministries, 1987), audiotape #02-0028, side 1.

Evangelist, if you believe that I have misunderstood any of Copeland's assertions then please provide some evidence or arguments to demonstrate my errors, or at the very least specifically identify what you believe my errors to be. Although Robin and several others have already done this, let me state clearly what Copeland and other Word Faith teachers profess that is clearly unbiblical and heretical:

He teaches that men are gods, not just beings created in the image and likeness of God, but gods:

"You're all God. You don't have a God living in you; you are one!...When I read in the Bible where God tells Moses, 'I AM,' I say, 'Yah, I am too!'" Kenneth Copeland, The Force of Love (Fort Worth, TX: Kenneth Copeland Ministries, 1987), audiotape #02-0028, side 1.

"God's reason for creating Adam was his desire to reproduce himself. I mean a reproduction of himself. And in the Garden of Eden he did just that. He was not a little like God, he was not almost like God, he was not subordinate to God even...Adam was as much like God as you can get, just the same as Jesus when he came to earth, he said if you have seen me you have seen the father. He wasn’t a lot like God he’s God manifested in the flesh, I want you to know something: Adam in the Garden of Eden was God manifested in the flesh." Kenneth Copeland, Following the Faith of Abraham I (Fort Worth, TX: Kenneth Copeland Ministries, 1989), tape #01-3001, side 1.

He teaches that God the Father has a body:

"God is a spirit-being with a body, complete with eyes, and eyelids, ears, nostrils, a mouth, hands and fingers, and feet." (Kenneth Copeland ministry letter, 21 July 1977.)

"God is...a being that stands somewhere around six two, six three, that weighs somewhere in the neighborhood of a couple hundred pounds a little better, has a span of eight and, I mean a nine inches across." Kennth Copeland, Spirit, Soul, and Body (Fort Worth, TX: Kenneth Copeland Ministries, 1987), audiotape #01-0601, side 1.

He teaches that Jesus' suffering and death upon the cross was insufficient to atone for human sin, and that in order to accomplish this he had to be tortured in hell for three days:

"It wasn't a physical death on the cross that paid the price for sin...anybody can do that." Kenneth Copeland, What Satan Saw on the Day of Pentecost (Fort Worth, TX: Kenneth Copeland Ministries, n.d.), audiotape #BCC-19, side 1.

"Satan conquered Jesus on the Cross and took His spirit to the dark regions of hell...He [Jesus] allowed the devil to drag Him into the depths of hell....He allowed Himself to come under Satan's control...every demon in hell came down on Him to annihilate Him....They tortured Him beyond anything anybody had ever conceived. For three days He suffered everything there is to suffer." Kenneth Copeland, "The Price of It All," Believer's Voice of Victory, September 1991.

He teaches that when Jesus died on the cross he also died spiritually and took on the nature of Satan, and was later "born again" in hell:

"The death of Jesus Christ was not a physical death alone. If it had been a physical death, Abel would have paid the price for mankind. He was the first man that died because of honoring God and His Word. If it had been a physical death only, it wouldn't have worked! And if He hadn't died spiritually, that body never would have died." Kenneth Copeland, What Happened From the Cross to the Throne, (Fort Worth, TX: Kenneth Copeland Ministries, 1990), audiotape #00-0303, side 2.

"The righteousness of God was made to be sin. He [Jesus] accepted the sin nature of Satan in His own spirit and at the moment that He did that He cried, "My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?" You don't know what happened at the cross. Why do you think Moses, obeying the instruction of God, hung the serpent up on the pole instead of a lamb? That used to bug me. I said, "Why in the world would you want to put a snake up there -- the sign of Satan? Why didn't you put a lamb on that pole." And the Lord said, "Because, it was the sign of Satan that was hanging on the cross." He said, "I accepted in my own spirit spiritual death and the light was turned off." Kenneth Copeland, What Happened From the Cross to the Throne (Fort Worth, TX: Kenneth Copeland Ministries, 1990), audiotape #00-0303, side 2.

"See, you have to realize that He [Jesus] died; you have to realize that He went into the pit of hell as a mortal man made sin. But He didn't stay there, thank God. He was reborn in the pit of hell and resurrected." Kenneth Copeland, What Happened From the Cross to the Throne (Fort Worth, TX: Kenneth Copeland Ministries, 1990), audiotape #00-0303, side 2.

"That Word of the living God went down into that pit of destruction and charged the spirit of Jesus with resurrection power! Suddenly His twisted, death-wracked spirit began to fill out and come back to life....Jesus was born again -- the firstborn from the dead the Word calls Him -- and He whipped the devil in his own backyard!" "The Price of It All," Believer's Voice of Victory, September 1991.

There are a number of other heretical beliefs which Copeland teaches, such as that the incarnate Christ was not fully God, that His incarnation was the result of God speaking Him into existence through His "faith-filled words" and positive confession, that faith is God's source of power and the only way He can do anything on this earth, etc., etc., etc. If you don't believe me just check out any of the following books, which cite Copeland's and other Word-Faith teachers' many heresies in explicit and thorough detail:

Hank Hanegraaff Christianity in Crisis

Robert M. Bowman The Word-Faith Controversy

D. R. McConnell A Different Gospel

Evangelist, please flee from this accursed cult to the blessed shelter of the true Church of our Lord Jesus Christ! There are many here who are willing to guide and help you. Please pray that God would open your eyes to His Eternal Truth and lead you away from these false teachers. Read carefully, then reread Wes's list of characteristics of false teachers: each one of them applies to these Word-Faith preachers. Be a good Berean and see if these doctrines which Copeland teaches are biblical. If your heart and mind are open, I or someone else here will gladly provide the verses that will reveal their errors.

Sorry to tell you this, but Kenneth Copeland and the rest of them believe the heresy that we become the Holy Ghost.

Tom

Brad

Many of the quotes you made of these Word of Faith teachers, I have heard with my own ears. I can also say that you have not distorted them in any way.

Evangelist- Brad is being very reasonable with you, all he is asking is if you have evidence that he is misunderstanding Copeland, then he wants to know what Copeland really meant.
If Copeland didn't mean what he said, then I have absolutely no idea what he meant. This means that Copeland is a bad communicator, or that literally hundreds like Brad and myself just don’t have very good comprehension.

I would recommend that you get Hank Hannegraff's tape series called "Christianity in Crisis". I am not a huge fan of Hanks, but the evidence that he uses on this series about Word of Faith people is irrefutable.

Are you also aware that Copeland has declared anyone who calls his teaching heresy, are going straight to hell?
Believe me when I say this, I was being polite in the way he put it. He seemed very delighted that they would be go there as well. The croud actually cheered him on. <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" />

Tom

Were these Scriptures quoted to explain how these "evangelists" became millionaires?

Let me offer an alternate Scriptural explanation from Ezekiel 34:



Your words (and the familiar teachings of these false teachers) suggest that because "the letter kills" we should not rely on Scripture which is certain and unchanging and infallible. Because "the letter kills," we should leave our Bibles on the shelf and rely on "the Spirit" instead.

The letter that kills is the Law under the Old Covenant. The Spirit that gives life is the same Spirit that gave the Law - and the same Spirit which bears witness with our spirit that we are sons of God. The letter that kills is the letter which condemns all humanity as guilty sinners under the Law of God. But we dare not throw away that Law!

And the trouble with relying entirely on whatever we think or feel the Spirit saying without the letter is that our feelings and perceprions change all the time. But the word of God stands forever, unchanging, sure, perfect. It is the Spirit speaking through the letter that gives life and leads us where He wishes.

-Robin

Hey Tom,

Do you have a direct quote or reference for this? I know Paul Crouch and Benny Hinn have gone this far, but I wasn't aware that Copeland had actually declared his critics damned (though it certainly comes as no surprise). If you can find the actual quote you should post it -- I'd like to add it to my Word-Faith "horror" files.

Here are a few quotes I have that really demonstrate the fruit of the Spirit of these "anointed ones":

"There are people attempting to sit in judgment right today over, over the ministry that I'm responsible for--and the ministry that Kenneth E. Hagin is responsible for. Now I'm going to tell you what brother, it's not going to pay you to bad mouth Kenneth E. Hagin. You're going to wind up in trouble. I'm talkin' about serious trouble. Several people that I know have criticized and called that faith bunch out of Tulsa a cult. And some of them are dead right today in an early grave because of it and there's more than one of' em got cancer. And they don't know that's why they did it. These are, these are people that think they're being honest before God. I mean they love God, sweet Christian people, and everybody's prayin' and believin' God tryin' to get 'em healed and can't understand why they don't get healed. Why? Because they're playin' around over in this area of criticism, playin' around over in there with another man's calling and another man's ministry. That man is not your servant so don't judge him. If you can't talk in love, don't talk, just keep your mouth shut." Kenneth Copeland, “Why All Are Not Healed” (Fort Worth, TX: Kenneth Copeland Ministries, 1990), audiotape #01-4001.

“I place a curse on every man and every woman that would stretch his hand against this anointing. I curse that man who dares to speak a word against this ministry” (Benny Hinn at his July 1999 Denver Miracle Crusade).

“Be careful! Your little ones may suffer because of your stupidity. Now I’m pointing my finger today, with the mighty power of God on me, and I speak....And your children will suffer. If you care for your kids, stop attacking Benny Hinn” (Benny Hinn at the World Charismatic Conference, Aug. 7, 1992).

“Those who put us down are a bunch of morons....You know, I’ve looked for one verse in the Bible, I just can’t seem to find it. One verse that says, ‘If you don’t like ’em, kill ’em.’ I really wish I could find it...Sometimes I wish God would give me a Holy Ghost machine gun — I blow your head off!” (Benny Hinn on TBN’s “Praise-A-Thon,” November 8, 1990).

"I think God's given up on a lot of that old rotten Sanhedrin religious crowd, twice dead, plucked up by the roots. I think they're damned and on their way to hell and I don't think there's any redemption for them...I say to hell with you! Oh hallelujah. Get out of God's way, quit blocking God's bridges or God's gonna shoot you if I don't! I refuse to argue any longer with any of you out there. Don't even call me. If you want to argue doctrine, if you want to straighten out somebody over here, if you want to criticize Ken Copeland for his preaching on faith, or Dad Hagin. Get out of my life! I don't even want to talk to you or hear you. I don't want to see your ugly face! Get out of my face in Jesus' name." (Paul Crouch on TBN's "Praise-A-Thon," April 2, 1991)

"Take authority over the principalities and powers that dare to threaten this ministry. I have raised it up from infancy for My own purposes, saith the Lord. Just as I commanded Ezekiel to prophesy life to dry bones, and they took on life, so I am commanding you to prophesy death to the threats, challenges, and bondage's the enemy has placed on TBN. Command them to cease and desist, and you will see this dilemma die and disappear before your eyes. God, we proclaim death to anything or anyone that will lift a hand against this network and this ministry that belongs to You, God. It is Your work, it is Your idea, it is Your property, it is Your airwaves, it is Your world, and we proclaim death to anything that would stand in the way of God's great voice of proclamation to the whole world. In the Name of Jesus, and all the people said Amen! (Paul Crouch on TBN's "Praise The Lord," November 7, 1997)

Millionaires? The exact figure for Paul Crouch's "slush fund" of his TBN "ministries" is now aproaching 400 million dollars. This is money that is pretty much used at his discression, personal or otherwise, and with accounting methods that would make an embezzler believe he has died and gone to heaven.

Just click on any of the articles on the below Web site relating to TBN Ministries.

http://www.ministrywatch.com/mw2.1/H_Home.asp

Denny

Romans 3:22-24

Denny,

Thank you for that eye opening report. I hadn't seen that before. It's very revealing and quite a contrast to living sacrificially!

It reminds me of our Savior's warning in His sermon on the mount.

“Do not lay up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moth and rust destroy and where thieves break in and steal; but lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust destroys and where thieves do not break in and steal. For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also." Matt. 6:19-21


Wes