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Huh? I would say about the same thing regarding your position. You have been zombieized by human philosophy, and you need to embrace the true Christ who died to secure salvation for sinners, not just make it possible. <br>I would be curious as to what you mean by "pre-select insanely." Is this your own idea about the biblical doctrines of election and predestination, or did someone supply you with this idea?<br><br>Fred<br><br>I am still wanting to know where you go to church? Your evasion to answer this simple question reveals a lot about your true character.<br>

Gee, thanks for the reference to a Watchman Nee book. Actually, I only wish I had two of them; one to read and the other for my dog to chew! <blockquote>Colossians 1:9-10 (ASV) "For this cause we also, since the day we heard [it], do not cease to pray and make request for you, that ye may be filled with the knowledge of his will in all spiritual wisdom and understanding, to walk worthily of the Lord unto all pleasing, bearing fruit in every good work, and increasing in the knowledge of God;"<br><br>Mark 12:24 (KJV) "And Jesus answering said unto them, Do ye not therefore err, because ye know not the scriptures, neither the power of God?"</blockquote>In His Sovereign Free Grace,

Ever notice you are the only one claiming anything about ZOMBIES? Strawman, because none of us believe this. Now, could you properly deal with this passage;<br><br>Mat 19:23 Then said Jesus unto his disciples, Verily I say unto you, That a rich man shall hardly enter into the kingdom of heaven. <br>Mat 19:24 And again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God. <br>Mat 19:25 When his disciples heard it, they were exceedingly amazed, saying, Who then can be saved? <br>Mat 19:26 But Jesus beheld them, and said unto them, With men this is impossible; but with God all things are possible. <br><br>Thank you.<br><br><br>God bless,<br><br>william

This type of commentary, its hardness, proves your current condition.

This is the crux of the error of calvinism, which I have repeated so many times but it doesn't get acknowledged like the calvin mind in its poor conscience just blanks over it. You are asking me this question because you have identified the source of the discerpency between calvinism and armenianism, though it goes unnoticed, you have awakened yourself to it.<br><br>God made us. God made us in His Image, which is with a free-will like His to freely choose under Satan or under God to be obedient or not, to accept by the grace of God eternal life or remain unsaved, typified by not eating of the tree of life nor accepting Christ. A true God will not impinge on this. Preselectism does not say this though. Preselectism says your god already decided anyway so too bad. It is really quite demented when you see it for what it is. Imagine a god deciding already who is to be saved and who is not denying will in His Image has anything at all to making that choice for Him or gainst Him to receive His life or to receive another. This is so insane, so crazy, so disturbing that for one to be saved while still believing this, strikes me as a virtual impossibility except for babes in Christ who are yet dealing with the matter; with a little more knowledge will be able to easily rebuke it in the name of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit. For these I hold nothing against them for being a fleshly Christian is something yet to overcome in life, but one who is a calvinist of many years and well read too, who still remains so, is an indication truly he was never saved to begin with and that he is under the fold of a different god, not the God of the Bible. That is why when talking to a calvinist you are observe mistaken assumption after mistaken assumption about their false accusations of Arminiasts proving that alone shows Calvinists are in lalaland blaming the sky, the ground and the toothfairy to make their case. The reason why a calvinist can't understand and arminiast in this simple explanation is because the very mind you are using to try and understand is itself the problem. It is not yet renewed in Christ by quickening the spirit that can transmit these truths to the mind renewing the mind with God's truths. And so that is why I suggest you read that book. Begin that process now and you will come into GOd's fold and out of the fold of this false god of calvinism. It is simple, though not so simple for a calvinists love of mental gymnastics no mater how flawed they may be, its that love of mental spinnings that is the problem. An arminiast is careful at the outset not to make the first initial mistaken assumption that a calvinist has so careless circumvented thus fullowing this insane god of calvinism who is like a zombie lord and you are his zombis because he picked you without you ever having to pick him. This is never how God operates, never. In knowing this you can know a loving God must be received by those who receive Him and His grace. That is true love, the way, the truth and the life. Bible teaches this. That is why we all must make a choice to come to Christ or not. If you think you came to Christ not of your own free-will thereby God giving you the gift of eternal life, I will suggest to you quite confidently that you were never saved to begin with because accepting Christ is not done in passivity and it is not done with blankness of mind where it seems to happen out of nothing without your consideration. This is rather often a baptism of the unholy spirit leading straight to hell. Remember, God graces, and it is always God's final decision, but God has asked each and every one of you have your come to Him so He can enact this promise upon you graciously as He promised. This is meaningful and purposeful, wheras as the zombiism of calvinism is not that at all, totally missing the dymanic of what is occuring. Calvinism is its own humanism, however misrepresenting the truth, and thereby living in that lie to end of its days. Christ will destroy it all at His parousia

Wow I feel like troy Maybe Troy got a new IP address with the Nee post, but I guess that is a different Story altogether. I do have one questoin though. How do you reconcile versus such as Romans 8?<br><br>28And we know that in all things God works for the good of those who love him,[1] who[2] have been called according to his purpose. 29For those God foreknew he also predestined to be conformed to the likeness of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brothers. 30And those he predestined, he also called; those he called, he also justified; those he justified, he also glorified. <br><br>Or how about the account of Saul who became Paul on the road to Damascus:<br><br>Acts 9<br>3As he neared Damascus on his journey, suddenly a light from heaven flashed around him. 4He fell to the ground and heard a voice say to him, "Saul, Saul, why do you persecute me?" <br>5"Who are you, Lord?" Saul asked. <br>6"I am Jesus, whom you are persecuting," he replied. "Now get up and go into the city, and you will be told what you must do." <br><br>I guess somewhere on the road there Saul chose God? Just a few thoughts.<br><br><br>Daniel<br>

Did you tell me what church you attend anywhere in this post?<br><br>Fred

Romans 8 needs no reconciliation and Saul was a man chosen because Saul chose. You can see Saul's conscience is at work here for he was receivable of things of God here. I think I know why there are difficulties of understanding here. It is like trying to teach a retarded person deeper things of math like calculus. It is a virtual impossible feat because they lack that which they need. They are not built to understand. Just like a reformer is not built to understand because he has not accepted the building blocks of truth that is armenianism, the true Christ. The retarded person could learn something of calculus too if they had the patience in it, but most do not, the wide path, just like calvinism is the wide path.

waronthesaints,<br><br>I think we have heard enough of your "Babelonian" gibberish at this point. <br><br>This thread is therefore locked!<br><br>As for you, either you didn't bother to read the Guidelines or you simply chose to ignore them. <br><br>Consequently, due to the nature of your less than virtuous flaming, borderline blasphemous statements concerning God's character, and vitriolic responses, it has been predestinated that you are hereby declared, <br><br>May God have mercy on you and give you eyes to see, ears to hear and a heart that is inclined to the biblical God, His Christ and the truth as it is found in His inspired written Word.<br><br>In His Grace,