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Re: Child Poverty [Re: Tom] #50365
Wed Jan 01, 2014 6:50 PM
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Originally Posted By: Tom
I guess what I am asking is when someone gets injured on the job; what do they do for money? I am not talking a week or two; a few years ago I was off work for almost 6 months.

There are a number of alternatives, e.g., savings which the responsibible employee tucks a little away each week, company programs where it contributes an equal amount of that deducted from the employee's weekly wage and it goes into a pool/fund to help someone who gets injured on the job, etc.

What I am against is the GOVERNMENT making laws which negatively impact employers and employees alike, most of which are unnecessary. You simply cannot legislate intelligence, especially when they are made by ignorant individuals. Eutopia cannot be created by laws. Dark providences do come and they are part of life.

Insurance companies exempt claims for instances which they claim are "acts of God". Yet these people who included these "acts of God" are in most every case Atheists or Agnostics. scratch1 But in truth, what ISN'T an act of God? That being true, either the insurance companies should cover ALL legitimate claims or stop selling insurance. evilgrin


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Re: Child Poverty [Re: Pilgrim] #50366
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Concerning insurance companies and "acts of God"; years ago from an insurance company’s point of view is things such as trees falling on cars.
This is what happened to my uncle’s car and their insurance did not cover it because it was according to them it was an "act of God. Yet they will cover house roofs that are damaged by high winds. This is what happened to a friend of mine's house. However, after they covered the costs, the company promptly cut them off despite the fact that it was the first time they have had to use their insurance. He was forced to find another insurance company to cover them.
Those events happened years ago.
Now, insurance companies no longer use the term “act of God”. http://www.cooperators.ca/en/Answer-Centre/how-does-insurance-work/act-of-god.aspx
This of course doesn’t mean that regular house insurance covers things like floods and earthquakes.
Though, there are things such as major floods (extended water damage policies can be bought, however they do not cover major floods). But this does not cover “accidental flood damage”. You can buy extended coverage for things like earthquakes.
Here is a quote that shows why the term “act of God” is no longer used.
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"Acts of god " can be fought because it forces all policy holders to believe in the same religion and violates the law.”

After reading these descriptions, I think perhaps we are dealing with semantics. Therefore I agree with your statement:

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Insurance companies exempt claims for instances which they claim are "acts of God". Yet these people who included these "acts of God" are in most every case Atheists or Agnostics. But in truth, what ISN'T an act of God? That being true, either the insurance companies should cover ALL legitimate claims or stop selling insurance.


Tom


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Re: Child Poverty [Re: Tom] #50367
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Tom, btw what is the minimum wage in Canada?

The breakdown of the family is the biggest cause of child proverty, if it really does exist; and the progressive state and institutions promote the breakdown.

With bankruptcy laws, it might be better to owe a lot than a little. I know of someone who had around $750,000 in debt wiped out by going through bankruptcy. I mean they lost their house (which didn't have much equity), but the restrictions placed on the family were not that restrictive - mostly stigma.


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Re: Child Poverty [Re: John_C] #50368
Thu Jan 02, 2014 10:46 PM
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The minimum wage in British Columbia is $10.25 per hour. However each province in Canada sets its own minimum wage.

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Re: Child Poverty [Re: chestnutmare] #50374
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Originally Posted By: chestnutmare
The redistribution of wealth via taxation has never worked. It is not only unbiblical but has proven to be a failure historically. We just had a discussion with a woman at the eye glass store yesterday as a matter of fact and she held to this socialistic notion. She felt that the gov't needed to take money from the rich and provide for the poor because the rich do not give to the poor voluntarily. Ironically, she initiated the discussion by announcing that she had a habit of buying new glasses all the time so that she had a pair that matched all of her outfits when she traveled. Well, (chuckling to myself. I hadn't bought glasses for probably 15 years or so and made do with an old pair that I found in a box.) why hadn't she thought of buying fewer glasses and contributing that money to the needs of the poor? No way, that was for the gov't to do. Tax these rich corporations and people and then take care of the poor. The conversation went on but, she just didn't get it. The problem is the depravity of man. Man is selfish, and will see his neighbor suffer before doing anything to help him.


It is hard at times to get people to examine their own presuppositions. Especially in that case. However, I wonder what the woman at the eye glass store would have said if she had been told by the government that her ability to buy a set of glasses for each outfit puts her in the "rich" category? I'm sure she would sing another song then.


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If you believe what you like in the gospels, and reject what you don't like, it is not the gospel you believe, but yourself. Augustine of Hippo
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