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I thought I would bring a Bible question to the board today. Did Abraham sin when he told Pharaoh (Gen. 12:10-20) and later Abimelech (Gen. 20: 1-18) that Sarah was his sister? If I remember correctly, almost every sermon I heard on the matter actually said Abraham did sin. However, a Reformed friend who is an elder in his Church believes they are mistaken. He says the following: James B. Jordan, in his work Primeval Saints, offers a nuanced interpretation of Abraham’s actions when he told Pharaoh (Genesis 12:10–20) and later Abimelech (Genesis 20:1–18) that Sarah was his sister. At first glance, many readers see this as a lie or an act of cowardice. But Jordan argues that Abraham didn’t sin in doing this, and he provides a covenantal and cultural explanation.
Here’s Jordan’s basic reasoning:
1. Sarah was Abraham’s sister—technically. Genesis 20:12 says:
“Besides, she is indeed my sister, the daughter of my father though not the daughter of my mother, and she became my wife.”
So Abraham wasn’t lying in the strict sense. She was his half-sister, which in that cultural context was not uncommon for marriage.
2. Abraham was navigating covenant faithfulness in a fallen world. Jordan suggests that Abraham’s act wasn’t a betrayal or sin, but a strategic move to protect the promise of God—that through Abraham, a great nation would come. If Abraham were killed by a pagan king who desired Sarah, that covenant line could be cut off. Abraham used a culturally acceptable practice of claiming kinship that would put the burden on the king to negotiate, rather than seize.
3. The blame falls more on the pagan kings than Abraham. Jordan points out that both Pharaoh and Abimelech were in the wrong, as they assumed they could take Sarah without just cause. The Bible emphasizes God’s intervention to protect Sarah, not to rebuke Abraham. In fact, God afflicts the kings’ households, not Abraham’s.
4. This situation reflects wisdom under pressure, not deceit. Jordan interprets Abraham’s actions as the actions of a man walking by faith in a world where he had little power. He didn’t trust the morality of pagan kings, but he trusted God to intervene—which He did.
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Jordan’s argument is that Abraham acted shrewdly, not sinfully. In a dangerous, pre-law world, where might made right, Abraham used truth selectively to avoid harm. His trust was ultimately in God’s covenant promise, and the narrative shows God’s faithful protection, not Abraham’s failure. Tom
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1. Sarah may have been Abraham's "step-sister' but he married her and thus she was his covenant bound wife. 2. All else he wrote concerning Abraham's statement concerning Sarah is total sophistry.
Conclusion: Joseph Fletcher would be proud of James B. Jordon. Jordon is guilty of using Situation Ethics to justify the lie that Abraham spoke.
1. "But God came to Abimelech in a dream by night, and said to him, Behold, thou art but a dead man, for the woman which thou hast taken; for she is a man's wife." (Gen. 20:2) It is God's truth that states that Sarah was Abraham's wife and not his step-sister and thus Abimelech was guilty of sin.
2. The apple doesn't fall too far from the tree for Isaac was guilty of the same sin of lying when Abimelech saw him fondling Rebekah his wife and told Abimelech that she was his sister.
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I am not a highly educated man kinda went to the school of hard knocks had to look up situational ethics boy is that a rabbit hole awaiting . i dont think the Bible is that difficult here sin is sin wrong is wrong thats my two cents worth think i will go look up sophisty. good topic thought thanks bob
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Hey Bob, There's an article on this very subject on The Highway website which doubtless will help you understand what "Situation Ethics" is and why it is totally contrary to biblical truth. Here ya go: "Situation Ethics" by J.I. PackerAnd... here is an old thread from 2004 which you may find interesting as well: Is it OK to lie?
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hello Pilgrim thank you for sharing those two articles Bob
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[I] Think God viewed him as actually commiting a lie, and showing lack of faith and trust in Yahweh as being able to protect him and his wife
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Think God viewed him as actually commiting a lie, and showing lack of faith and trust in Yahweh as being able to protect him and his wife Did Abraham tell the truth? or did he lie about Sarah being his sister? Can there be any doubt that Abimelech clearly understood Abraham's words and believed that Sarah was not married to him. Why would you think that God viewed what Abraham told Abimelech to be truthful?
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To be clear, I agree with you. The only reason I brought this subject to the board, is because my friend is a very solid Christian. It is quite rare, when him and I disagree with each other.
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My reply was that Abraham lied and showed lack of faith in God to protect them
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My understanding is the same as yours. Mainly that Abraham did lie, as a result of a lack of faith. This as far as I can tell, from reading about other biblical characters like David and even Peter, having a lack of faith. Even the most faithful characters in the Bible had their moments.
I see this as descriptive, rather than prescriptive.
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This is a bit of an older thread and I need to state that I have not changed my opinion on the matter.
However, I heard something recently that if true (which I am going to look into). James Jordan’s position is not alone in his beliefs.
I was told John Calvin, John Gill, Augustine, James Montgomery Boice, Matthew Henry and Johnathan Edwards are in Jordan’s corner.
Here is a list of the theologians mentioned, along with the works where they address the incident of Abraham and Sarah, specifically regarding whether Abraham lied. Each source either defends Abraham as not lying or treats his words as technically true but perhaps unwise or lacking in trust, rather than sinful deception.
1. John Calvin • Work: Commentary on the Book of Genesis (specifically on Genesis 12 and Genesis 20) • Position: Calvin acknowledges Abraham concealed the truth but maintains it was not an outright lie. He calls it a “pretense” and a “deficiency of faith,” not a falsehood. • Quote:
“She is in truth my sister, the daughter of my father… It appears, therefore, that he did not fabricate a falsehood, but that the declaration, though true, was not ingenuously made.”
2. John Gill • Work: Exposition of the Old and New Testaments (Commentary on Genesis 20:12) • Position: Gill argues that Abraham told the truth. Sarah was his half-sister, and Abraham’s words were not a lie, though the situation involved a prudent concealment. • Quote:
“This was no lie, but a truth… for she was the daughter of his father, though not of his mother.”
3. Augustine of Hippo • Work: City of God, Book XVI, Chapter 19 • Position: Augustine explains Abraham’s statement as technically true. He notes that while it may seem deceptive, it was not a lie because Sarah was truly his sister. • Quote:
“For she was in truth his sister, being the daughter of his father, not of his mother… it was not a lie, but a concealment of part of the truth.”
4. James Montgomery Boice • Work: Genesis: An Expositional Commentary, Volume 1 (Genesis 1–11) and Volume 2 (Genesis 12–36)* • Position: Boice describes Abraham’s act as a lapse in faith and a failure to trust God, but not a moral falsehood. He emphasizes the cultural and ethical complexity of the situation. • Quote (paraphrased summary from his commentary):
“Abraham’s problem was not so much dishonesty as distrust. What he said was technically true. His fault lay in fearing man more than God.”
5. Matthew Henry • Work: Matthew Henry’s Commentary on the Whole Bible (Genesis 12 and 20) • Position: Henry calls Abraham’s strategy a weakness in faith, but not a lie. He affirms the factual basis of Abraham’s claim. • Quote:
“Though it was no lie, it was a prevarication… it was a weakness in Abraham, and a blemish in his conduct.”
6. Jonathan Edwards • Work: While Edwards doesn’t comment extensively on this specific text in his sermons or treatises, in his Miscellanies and History of Redemption, he speaks more broadly about God’s providence in redemptive history. • Position: Edwards does not explicitly call Abraham’s act a lie; rather, he views these events as providentially used by God to demonstrate divine protection and covenantal faithfulness. • Reference: The Works of Jonathan Edwards, Volume 1 (History of the Work of Redemption) • Summary: Edwards’ focus is not on moral analysis but on how God uses even flawed human choices for redemptive purposes.
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Did Abraham tell the truth? or did he lie about Sarah being his sister? Can there be any doubt that Abimelech clearly understood Abraham's words and believed that Sarah was not married to him. Why would you think that God viewed what Abraham told Abimelech to be truthful? That which is not of faith is sin. Seeing he didn’t fully trust God to protect him from Pharaoh, he told Sarah(wasn’t she Sarai at that time?) to lie. By saying she was his sister, was her way of lying about being his wife. So, they both lied, imo.
“The foundation of knowledge is God’s revelation.” Dr. Greg Bahnsen
“In the New Testament the Lord Jesus Christ appears in order to fulfill the Old Testament hope of the Messiah. He presents himself as the king who has come to establish his kingdom in anticipation of his universal rule.” Dr. Kenneth Gentry
“Men must be governed by God or they will be ruled by tyrants.” William Penn
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As I said before, I believe Abraham did indeed lie.
There is however, an argument I read from people who believe Abraham did not lie.
“If Abraham lied, why was he not at least reprimanded by God? In fact, it was Pharoah and Abimalech that were reprimanded.”
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Although I believe that Abraham lied. It should be stated that Sarah was Abraham’s half sister. Yet he said this, to deceive out of a lack of faith.
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As I said before, I believe Abraham did indeed lie.
There is however, an argument I read from people who believe Abraham did not lie.
“If Abraham lied, why was he not at least reprimanded by God? In fact, it was Pharoah and Abimalech that were reprimanded.” Ppl can believe whatever they want, but as you, and others, have said, he lied and also told Sarai to lie. It’s just like a few years ago, there were some trying to say David raped Bathsheba, which is patently false. I said that only to say this, ppl can believe anything they want to, but if the Bible doesn’t back it up, they believe errantly.
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“The foundation of knowledge is God’s revelation.” Dr. Greg Bahnsen
“In the New Testament the Lord Jesus Christ appears in order to fulfill the Old Testament hope of the Messiah. He presents himself as the king who has come to establish his kingdom in anticipation of his universal rule.” Dr. Kenneth Gentry
“Men must be governed by God or they will be ruled by tyrants.” William Penn
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