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Again, we can point to Soros as an example, even though he’s not a public official. Israel takes out the Islamic opposition while Soros doubles & triples down on sowing the seeds of discord, in particular, in America. So both sides are ultimately fed. Israel gets undying military cover and support as Americans, including and especially Jewish Americans, are forced to cope with angry mobs, protests and political sympathizers on behalf of Islam. I don’t see Israel ever losing support due to all the global investment in the region. In the meantime, Canada & America are severely disrupted and shaken. I know this is a pretty nuanced take but I think it’s the trend. … with the goal of a global accumulation / centralization of power. Lots of disruption and reorganization needs to occur for this goal to be achieved. Hopefully it’s thwarted or I’m just totally off the mark. But it’s the only way I can make sense of all the seemingly woke contradictions in conjunction with recent military aggression & potential occupations / destabilizations.

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He (Fuentes) is far right, and both him and Candace Owen, are creating quite a stir among believers.
<------- a HUGE assumption on your part. Are these people you refer to as "believers" and embrace the idiocy of Fuentes true believers? I had the large displeasure of listening to Fuentes when 'interviewed' by Tucker Carlson. The man is deranged and holds to really disgusting views on several subjects. Remember well, that throughout history, MANY have and will fall away and be carried away by every wind of doctrine. It is the Spirit Who infallibly preserves the true believers and grants to them truth, knowledge and wisdom that they may flee the Evil One and all that is against God and hates the truth. wink

As far as Candace Owens, I have not been privy to her latest remarks but only her tirades against people who supported racial riots, George Floyd etc., to which I thought she was excellent. What exactly are her "conspiracy theories" re: Charlie Kirk? His professed Christianity is of the typical semi-Pelagian, evangelical variety to which I totally reject as genuine. And, I have watched a few of his interactions with students on the subject of "Christian Nationalism" which was embarrassing to say the least. His twisting of Scripture to justify his "Nationalism" view was disgusting. Yes, I have listened to many of his debates concerning abortion, homosexuality, transgenderism, and other social issues and he was quite good. But he was hardly a "saint" and one that one should use careful discernment when exposed to his material and debates.


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I’ll let Tom respond. But here’s a link… (these are crazy, crazy times). Tucker has been acting fairly erratic. At least the few times I’ve watched him as of late. It’s hard for me to tell if he’s even sincere most of the time since he often exhibits manic traits. He also uses a lot of bombastic jargon. He’s been expressing some Christian sentiments and platitudes as of late but I fear his intentions are ultimately political. Maybe I’m wrong and he’s wholly sincere. I don’t know his heart.

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Tucker Carlson tells story about murder of Jesus at Charlie Kirk’s memorial, igniting criticism
For many listening, including right-wing Jews, the link between story and the unfounded conspiracy theory that Israel killed Kirk was clear. …

The most prominent voices amplifying the theory that Israel was behind Kirk’s murder, which authorities have attributed to a 22-year-old Utah man who they say has confessed, have been Carlson; Candace Owens, who has long amplified antisemitic and anti-Israel ideas; and Nick Fuentes, a streamer who made a point of goading Kirk to be more antisemitic and anti-Israel.







This is absolutely fascinating if what he claims about being cancelled for questioning Israel is true…

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Again, I recommend all these folk are taken with a grain of salt. I’ve already moved on from all of them and every other domestic and foreign affair outside my control and ultimately my affection.

I will say I was very surprised by Fuentes just based on this one interview. I believe he did say something very juvenile at one point, bordering on vile. I think he has a great deal of maturing to do.
However, listening to him for the first time fascinated me the way this young man was cancelled very early on for asking questions about foreign policy and political controls and influences. So this monster was created by a somewhat rigged system in a certain sense. Not endorsing or excusing (AT ALL) but things I’ve always suspected appear to be confirmed here.

Some things deserve a fair hearing as his views may have been twisted somewhat and are actually somewhat reasonably sincere as far as political & more importantly systematic realities. I at least appreciate his authenticity. I’m sure he acts like a real knucklehead on his daily podcast, and I couldn’t really see myself ever giving him a second thought from this point forward.
But we all need to be faced with the True & Living God to have any true value in this life. So that’s ultimately where I’m at. I don’t really have much use for anyone lacking a sense of True Authority. I just don’t want to waste too much of my precious time in that sense, not anymore.

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I have failed to communicate that I am not trying to make assumptions of people’s salvation.
I am talking here about “professing Right Wing Christians”. I am not making any judgements, I am just reporting what I am seeing on the Right.

I will say that, I have been guilty of wasting too much time on things like this.
Which is the main reason, I am trying to pick and choose where I participate in on-line discussion.

I agree with your basic comments on Nick Fuentes. Although he brings a lot on himself by his own comments, which are over the top. There is a certain amount of prejudice against him and others who do not toe the line with their beliefs.

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Thanks for the discussion! Interesting times.

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