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#20210 - Monday, January 3, 2005 9:45 AM
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2 Peter 3:9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.
Titus 2:11 For the grace of God that bringeth salvation hath appeared to all men,
1 Timothy 4:10 For therefore we both labour and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, who is the Saviour of all men, specially of those that believe.
1 Timothy 2:4 Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.
Now where would they git such a dopey idea as that? Let me help you. It's called scholarship. The kind that checks context. 2Pe 3:9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance. (KJV)
John Gill but is longsuffering to us-ward: not to all the individuals of human nature, for the persons intended by us are manifestly distinguished from "some men" in the text, and from scoffers, mocking at the promise of Christ's coming, in the context, 2Pe_3:3; and are expressly called beloved, 2Pe_3:1; and God's longsuffering towards them is their salvation, 2Pe_3:15, nor is it true of all men, that God is not willing that any of them should perish, and that everyone of them should come to repentance, since many of them do perish in their sins, and do not come to repentance, which would not be the case, if his determining will was otherwise; besides, a society or company of men are designed, to which the apostle himself belonged, and of which he was a part; and who are described, in his epistles, as the elect of God, called out of darkness, into marvellous light, and having obtained like precious faith with the apostles; and must be understood either of God's elect among the Jews, for Peter was a Jew, and they were Jews he wrote to; and then the sense is, that the delay of Christ's coming is not owing to any slackness in him, but to his longsuffering to his elect among the Jews, being unwilling that any of that number among them should perish, but that all of them repent of their sins, and believe in him;
The very context of the sentence is to whom? " us-ward" Here is an article that helps to show what all means in it's context for this passage, 2Peter expounded upon. Tit 2:11 For1063 the3588 grace5485 of God2316 that bringeth salvation4992 hath appeared2014 to all3956 men,444 (KJV+)
G2014 epiphainō Thayer Definition: 1) to show to or upon 1a) to bring to light 2) to appear, become visible 2a) of stars 3) to become clearly known, to show one’s self Part of Speech: verb A Related Word by Thayer’s/Strong’s Number: from G1909 and G5316 Citing in TDNT: 9:7, 1244
I don't see how appeared means saved. 1Ti 4:10 For therefore we both labour and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, who is the Saviour of all men, specially of those that believe. (KJV)
When ALL isn't absolute 1Ti 2:4 Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth. (KJV)
Since you have nullified the contextual meaning of every other verse you posted, I had no doubt this would be the same. Here is some exegesis to help clarify, 1Tim 2:4 teaches limited atonement. God bless, william
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