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Pilgrim said:
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Joe k said:

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I'd like to know how you arrived at that conclusion. [that all in the Ark were saved].
Becasue of what the ark represents. All In Christ are saved. What would make one conclcude he was not?
Joe,

Can you point me to the Scripture(s) which indicate that the Ark which Noah built was a "type" of Christ? I can't seem to remember any. <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/shrug.gif" alt="" /> What I do remember is what Peter wrote concerning the Ark and what it represented here:

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1 Peter 3:20-22 (ASV) that aforetime were disobedient, when the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls, were saved through water: <span style="background-color:yellow">which also after a true likeness doth now save you, [even] baptism,</span> not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the interrogation of a good conscience toward God, through the resurrection of Jesus Christ; who is one the right hand of God, having gone into heaven; angels and authorities and powers being made subject unto him.
Even here, the Ark is not seen as typological but rather the water upon which the Ark floated is a type and the anti-type is said to be "baptism".

Secondly, where Peter states that "eight souls, were saved through water", the reference is to physical deliverance or rescue and not spiritual salvation. The anti-type baptism is referential to spiritual salvation however. But even here, much to the error of many, the text is not saying that baptism itself saves.

So, help me out here. <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

In His grace,

Allegories are used when allown Pilgrim. I see too many similarities to throw away the understanding that the Ark is a type of Christ. When in scripture does anything specifically mention a "type" of Christ? One window, one door, God shuts the door, salvation from the flood of sin. There is a stronger case for this than to use Peters words to prove baptismal salvation/regeneration.

“But with thee will I establish my covenant; and thou shalt come into the ark, thou, and thy sons, and thy wife, and thy sons' wives with thee.” (Genesis 6:18)


How many types are explicitly said to be types? There are a few, but not many.

Gill:

The ark was a type of Christ, into whom whoever enters by faith, or in whom whoever believes, shall be saved; but as they that entered into the ark were but few, so are those that enter in at the strait gate, or believe in Christ; and they that went into the ark were saved by the water bearing up the ark, even by that by which others were destroyed; as the very same thing, for different reasons, is the cause or means of destruction and salvation; so Christ is set, for the fall and rising of many, is a stumblingblock to some, and the power and wisdom of God to others; and the Gospel, and the ministers of it, are the savour of life unto life to some, and the savour of death unto death to others. This instance of the dispensation of the providence of God to the old world is very appropriately, though by way of digression, introduced by the apostle; showing, that in times past, as then, God's usual method has been to afford the outward means to ungodly men, and to bear with them long, and then bring down his vengeance upon them, and save his own people; and this suffering saints might depend upon would be their case, and therefore

There never was a sinner half as big as Christ is as a Savior.