I too just copied-and-pasted the entire quote into LxQuick (my search engine of choice) after I voted (so it's not cheating) giggle and followed a link to the 5 Points of Arminianism. It surprised me how "orthodox" the statement seems considering the source. My first reply to this thread was my typical Asperger's nit-pickiness run amok, but in matters of orthodoxy, that nit-picking has served me well. laugh