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Ok, now we are getting somewhere.
I was confused because I know you do believe the orthodox view on the atonement. Yet, all I had to go by was what DeYoung said in his critique. Yet you did not refer to other writing by DeYoung to show what he actually believed until now.
Although, I have heard of DeYoing before, it is not like I actually know much about him.
We were talking past each other. Enough said.

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Pilgrim you mentioned something that you had previously posted written by the Remonstants. Can you please provide a link to it?
I am assuming that you mentioned it because DeYoung believes the Remonstrants understanding of the issue.

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Originally Posted by Tom
Pilgrim you mentioned something that you had previously posted written by the Remonstants. Can you please provide a link to it?
I am assuming that you mentioned it because DeYoung believes the Remonstrants understanding of the issue.
1. Interestingly enough, the post I was referring to was in response to you. giggle It can be found HERE

2. The reason I mentioned this is not because it deals with the same subject but rather to give you an example of how someone can make a statement which on its face looks very sound but when it is further examined by other things the same author(s) wrote, it takes upon a whole different meaning than one would naturally assume it to be.


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I am well aware of how people can use the same language but mean something entirely different. In fact a few months ago, Mormons infiltrated another Reformed forum (that forum has since needed to shut down) I participate in and they used a lot of the same language we did. When others challenged them, they cried foul and unfortunately some actually came to their defense. Mormons in case you don't know are getting very brazen at trying to pass themselves off as just another Christian denomination. But that is a different topic, sorry.

That being said, on the DeYoung issue, I have been trying to find out more about what he believes concerning the atonement and have not as yet been able to find out anything. However, I did find out that he is a contributor to Table Talk Magazine.
He has also participated in a few conferences with RC Sproul and John MacArthur and one of these conferences the main topic was the atonement.
This of course is not in any way endorsing him, for I am suspect of New Calvinism and the Gospel Coalition. Yet, other than your saying so, I have not found anything amiss concerning his view on the atonement. scratch1
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Originally Posted by Tom
Perhaps you might want to deal with what the critique actually says?

Alright Tom, I thought I was making a point that given what DeYoung says in the article here:
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C.S. Lewis’ Mere Christianity is a classic. It is a winsome, thoughtful, well-written defense of the Christian faith. Some of its better known sections–like the famous liar, lunatic, Lord, trilemma–have become part of the way evangelicals think and speak. No doubt God has used Lewis and Mere Christianity to awaken affections for Christ, engage the mind for Christ, and remove obstacles for the Spirit to draw people to Christ. I’m thankful for all this. More than that, I’ve benefited from every Lewis book I’ve read.


Red flags should have gone up for you. My post mentioned that Lewis did not have an orthodox view of Scripture. He did not hold to its inerrancy for instance. So whatever anyone says about the value of Lewis' work as fiction, his theology is not to be trusted. And given that DeYoung for reason of the views expressed in his blog as well as for others, DeYoung should be read with great discernment. From what I have read thus far, he is not to be trusted.

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…yet I also don't think he takes a strong enough stances against the book. He misses the mark I think.
Thank you for reminding us of why we should question anything that DeYoung and the GCC says or does.


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