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Just wanted to get feedback on this, a unique/precise perspective on Gospel (vs law)

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Care to expand on that? giggle

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I would think there is a danger to think....'you know and believe the gospel,here are the rules.... Now Go! Share the gospel, follow the law!'

For me that's a snare.... I need to bury myself in the word and fellowship with believers ..... I need to grow and keep growing.... And persevere with every setback




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Originally Posted by Tom
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I would say this is merely a cliff notes summary however....I'm sure Horton knows there is much more to be said and experienced

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I agree, what Horton said was just a brief outline on the subject. He mentioned a few things in his talk that could be expanded on.

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The reason why I asked was because I am not sure whether you disagreed with him. Or perhaps you thought he was being too general for your liking.

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Here's another interesting yet brief exposition on the topic....


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Hi, please consider: A Gospel Summary

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I obviously love what Jeff writes here... But would we agree then that the gospel should be broken down into specific parts.....

I. Who is God, and how should He be perceived?
II. Who are we and what do we need?

III. Who is Jesus, what has He done, and how may we benefit?

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A forth part can be regarding evidences of our being in Christ (sanctification) and our constant need to look without/outside ourselves to the author & finsher of our faith

.....which is wink basically the way Jeff laid it out.

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Originally Posted by AJ Castellitto
I would think there is a danger to think....'you know and believe the gospel,here are the rules.... Now Go! Share the gospel, follow the law!'

For me that's a snare.... I need to bury myself in the word and fellowship with believers ..... I need to grow and keep growing.... And persevere with every setback
He didn't make any rules to follow in his explanation of the term gospel, or is that your statement that is said by others concerning the word?


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I have used this when I speak with others about the gospel, and I pray that I can give more out when I evangelize, its an excellent biblical source for their understanding of the good news of Jesus Christ.


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I would think there is a danger to think....'you know and believe the gospel,here are the rules.... Now Go! Share the gospel, follow the law!'

For me that's a snare.... I need to bury myself in the word and fellowship with believers ..... I need to grow and keep growing.... And persevere with every setback
He didn't make any rules to follow in his explanation of the term gospel, or is that your statement that is said by others concerning the word?

You are right, that was my own projection

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Dr. Lane Tipton is a "voice in the wilderness" in today's society, IMO. Love this man..... smile Thanks for providing his video. BigThumbUp


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Dr. Lane Tipton is a "voice in the wilderness" in today's society, IMO. Love this man..... smile Thanks for providing his video. BigThumbUp

Thanks, yeah, he’s my pastor and I dialogue with him often.

I’ve been bombarding him after I found out he was chosen for the study committee on Christian Nationalism.

I finally received clarity on modern two kingdom theology and natural law and realized that the Escondido doctrine of modern two kingdom is a bait and switch that fails to acknowledge that classical natural law legal theory is passé and has been manipulated and replaced by radical theories of law. If the agenda of those (trying) to lead and influence our country is to do so in a self-defeating direction - to bring order and tyranny out of chaos - then these modern theories of “law” will undoubtedly take us there.

Lane was independently targeting modern two kingdom theology as much as the radical strains of CN independent of me before we touched base on the matter.
I told him that despite their agenda to combat the gospel-compromising strains of CN, if DG Hart (and guys like RS Clark) keep opening their mouths they are going to create an army of politics first CNs (in response), because they also trample on what it means to be a Christian in society with their double minded modern two kingdom doctrines.

Ultimately, Christianity exclusively informed our laws and morals of our classically liberal nation. And God has preserved us in this manner. But the modern two kingdom guys are not - maybe by design - acknowledging the ways that our rule of law has been and continues to be undermined.

Even the doctrine of the “spirituality of the church” was exercised to keep the Church from speaking out against slavery, so the motives of church leaders & influencers are not always what they seem.
Radical Pluralism and “going along to get along” should not be what motivates us in any sphere.


Pastor Lane has also helped me more deeply comprehend Van Til, Protestant distinctives (especially from Aquinas) and the heretical influence of false philosophies.

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