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It is theoretically possible that God has decreed that all infants dying in infancy will be taken to heaven. But, then again, one could also postulate all kinds of things which might be included in God's decree. What is certain, is that what you hold open to possibility cannot be found in Scripture; not even a hint. I agree that Scripture does not say that all infants are elect. But it also does not say that all infants are not elect (to my knowledge). It remains silent on the point. Therefore, I can only conclude that we don't know which infants are elect or not. It may be all or it may be very few. There are some things that we are not meant to know. If it is all, I can think of many good reasons why Scripture is silent on the issue. I am not "postulating" that all infants are elect or only some, I am saying I don't know, and that might very well be the correct answer to the question. Now, wouldn't it be even be more feasible to "hold open to possibility", that if such a thing was true, that God would have included this important truth in His written Word? I see no reason why one would be led to this conclusion. There are many many things that are true that God did not see fit to include in His Word. Since God is allegedly so merciful in that He has theoretically elected all infants who die infancy, then it seems only consistent with that mercy that He would also make this election of infants known so as to provide a sure hope and comfort to the parents. <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" /> Again, I see no reason for this conclusion. Why would it be not be consistent with His mercy to not make this election known if it were true. Then, why doesn't God make 100% known all the elect: adults, children, and infants. Wouldn't it be nice to know 100% that your father or mother went to heaven. That would certainly be a great comfort and hope to their children. In regard to Boettner's article, although I find him great in 90% of his writings, I find him woefully lacking in his view concerning the salvation of infants who die in infancy for the very same reasons I oppose those who have voiced that view here; i.e., there is NO biblical support for it. And I mentioned elsewhere as well, he uses this to bolster his postmillennial presuppositions concerning the kingdom and Christ being "victorious", etc. <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/rolleyes2.gif" alt="" /> I too disagree with postmillennialism. As I said before although maybe not clearly. I don't think it is possible to know exactly who the elect infants are. Maybe it's only some maybe it's all. I don't know exactly how Boetnner argues from all infants are elected to Postmillenialism, so I can't comment on that too much. Of course, it's easy to start with a true set of premises and arrive at a wrong conclusion by some other error on the way. I have already agreed with your ealier statements that there is no Scriptural support that all infants are part of the elect, so in arguing from that premise, Boettner was probably mistaken. But I also think that Scripture does not necessarily preclude the fact that all infants might be elect. John
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