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Dear Pilgrim:
Thanks for the following bit of information:
We also know that out of the entire human race, there is only a "remnant" that is saved. So the Postmillennialists like Boettner, who are wont to read into such words as "victorious", etc. re: the kingdom, force this to mean quantity rather than quality. That is, the number of saved, according to them, MUST exceed those who are lost if Christ is to be the Victor. Now, to further this erroneous eisogesis, they make all infants who die in infancy elect and saved, and thus they have their larger number.
Once again I have gained some insight into a position by reading a thread that is not specifically dealing with that subject, ie Postmillenialism. The quality/quantity issue is very revealing to me at least.
I also would point out that the very word "remnant" as you allude to above implies a lesser number in my mind, as does the scriptural reference to "few" vs "many" on the paths that lead to eternal life and destruction, respectively, and thus this tends to give credence to the idea that not all infants dying in infancy are elect.
Finally, I don't know the specific passage but as I was reading this thread I thought about the OT passage(s) wherein the Lord commanded David (I think) to smash the heads of the infants of the Ammonites (again I could easily be misstating here) against the rocks. If that is at all correct, it doesn't sound on the surface at least that God is pleased with these infants. I also think of verses that express displeasure at children for the sins of their parents as well as those that express God's delight in children because of the faithfulness of their parents.
Any thoughts on these ideas/passages would be appreciated as you have time.
In Him,
Gerry
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