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Ddaann said: What scriptural warrant do we have for baptizing any who don't beieve? None! even those who don't believe!; that is if you are a Babdist.  But for those who are understanding the continuity of the covenant correctly, they baptize all who are to be deemed as members of the covenant, i.e., those who make a valid profession of faith, since we cannot infallibly know who has true saving faith and thus we abstain from saying we only baptize "believers", and their children. We distinguish between those who are covenant members externally and those who are members internally, i.e., those who have been genuinely converted and are united to Christ by faith. Ddaann, let me be very frank with you. You are not going to convince any paedobaptist here to "switch" without presenting a protracted, detailed and convincing argument in regard to the continuity/discontinuity of covenant theology as seen from the Baptist point of view. Many of us here came from the Baptist camp so there isn't much probability that any are going to regress. Also, it isn't something most of us here really care to hear again, since we have been down this road sooooooooo many times and invariably and unfortunately, due to the zeal of a very few, not more than hard feelings, and even schism has resulted. If you are one who thinks that baptizing an infant is next to utter apostasy then perhaps you need to evaluate your own position and realize that you make far too much of baptism. And, fyi, I say the same to paedobaptists who think that it is a terrible sin not to baptize infants and even more so for those who think that baptized infants belong to Christ. You don't think it is proper to baptize infants? Fine.... don't do it. But what you MUST do is realize that ALL children are born in sin and need to be impressed with their need of Christ. With the exception of the "hyper-covenantalists" who believe their children are "in Christ", "Christians", etc.... both Baptists and Paedobaptists rear their children in an identical manner. In this I rejoice and find unity.  In His Grace,
simul iustus et peccator
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