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speratus said: Good works supply proof that faith is working. James 2:17-24. However, the assurance of salvation does not come from a glorification of the imperfect works of man. God gives us the assurance of salvation through His Word,
We no longer live in fear that we have not done enough under the law to merit grace. So why return to the bondage of the law unto fear by performing works to obtain the assurance of salvation? Good works flow naturally from a spirit that has been liberated from the curse of the law. Romans 7:6; 8:2. speratus, I see that you have contradicted yourself once again. <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/rolleyes2.gif" alt="" /> First of all, NO ONE has even hinted that salvation comes from "a glorification of the imperfect works of man". The topic is assurance of salvation, i.e., how one can know that they already have salvation which is by grace through faith. Why is it that you cannot make this proper distinction? Secondly, NO ONE has suggested that you should perform works in order "to obtain the assurance of salvation". What I wrote that one's good works which are evident in one's life are evidence of a true living faith which has united the believer to Christ. And thus, assurance is ascertained, at least in part. Thirdly, you wrote, "Good works flow naturally from a spirit that has been liberated from the curse of the law." Yes, this is absolutely true. The believer has been liberated from the curse of the law, but not from the responsibility to keep the law. To this you certainly agree, since "good works" are those things which are in conformity to the law, albeit imperfectly done in this life, unless you are an Antinomian. <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/evilgrin.gif" alt="" /> And it is these naturally flowing good works which the Spirit works within the soul (Eph 2:10; Jam 2:26; et al) that are evidence of a true faith and from which the believer has warrant to have assurance. In His Grace,
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