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J.E., You wrote:- Quote: --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
JE stated,
The promise was: "they shall be my people, and I will be their God" (Jer 24:7). ------------------------------------------------------------ Steve replied,
Yes, but the people of God are different under the NC than in the OC.
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Dispensationalism once AGAIN (and I am not using the term hermeneutic here). Steve was the church in the OT? As Gerstner states, “According to Dispensationalism, Israel and the church are different in almost everyway.” According to Steve, “the people of God are different under the NC than in the OC.” Gerstner adds, “The dispensational distinction between Israel and the church implicitly repudiates the Christian way of salvation…. If these are two different types of people, how can they have the same salvation?” Grace2u YOU are preaching another gospel—dispensationalism! ------------------------------------------------------------
Again you are misrepresenting me. What I wrote was:- ------------------------------------------------------------ Yes, but the people of God are different under the NC than in the OC. Of the OC people it is written:-
‘Unless the Lord of hosts had left us a very small remnant, we would have become like Sodom, we would have been made like Gomorrah (Isaiah 1:9 ),
but of His New Covenant people, He says:-
‘For they shall all know Me, from the least of them to the greatest of them, says the LORD. For I will forgive their iniquity, and their sin I will remember no more.’ ------------------------------------------------------------ There has only ever been one way of salvation throghout redemptive history- through faith in the finished work of Christ (John 8:56 ). Under the OC, the elect of God were a remnant of the Children of Israel. In the NC, they are a people called out of the world. That is the difference of which I was speaking.
You continued:- ------------------------------------------------------------ Everyone who was a member of the Corinthian Church (or any other church) Paul wrote to was clearly not among the elect. The Corinthian Church had numerous sins in their midst; division, fornication (1 Cor 7), drunkenness, calling Jesus accursed (1 Cor 12:3), etc. and for anyone to assume for a moment that “everyone” of these Corinthians (without exception) were elect is truly presumptive and unscriptural. ------------------------------------------------------------ Are you suggesting that anyone who ever sins is not a Christian? I trust not! However, once again, you are not reading my posts. There may well have been those who attended the 'ekklesia' in Corinth who were not saved, but according to the Holy Spirit they were not part of the church. Rather they were those who, 'Have crept in unnoticed', and 'Have neither part nor portion in this matter' (Acts 8:21 ). 'They were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would have continued with us' (1John 2:19 ). As Paul says, 'Put away from yourselves the wicked person'(1Cor 5:13 ) and 'Reject a divisive man after the first and second admonition' (Titus 3:10 ).
The Church of Christ is to be a pure body as far as we can make it so. As Paul wrote, 'That I might present you as a chaste virgin to Christ' (2Cor 11:2 ). We will never achieve this absolutely in this fallen world, but that is no reason whatsoever not to try. The bane of the Church today is unredeemed people taken into membership. They pervert the worship of their assembly with their unredeemed tastes in music and their distaste for longerc prayers or sermons. Alas, non-reformed Baptist churches are as guilty as any for this, when they baptize those of whom there is no sign of true conversion. However, baptizing infants is an even surer way of polluting the Church, as is shown in the apostasy of the Genevan church in the 18th Century, the English Presbyterian church in the 18th and again in the 20th Century, the PCA in America in the 1920s and the current ghastly state of the Church of England. The Reformed Baptist churches in England, weak as they are, are the only ones to have kept anything like a consistent witness from the 17th Century to the present day.
Every blessing, Steve
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