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Again I ask for Biblical reference to support the concept of war.

Oh, for goodness' sake! Read the Book. The concept of war is everywhere therein, and sometimes God even commanded it of the Israelites. (Horrors!)

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But I think that Christians need to look at this world and it's issues through what the Word of God says and not what governments present. I was refering to the Christians acceptance of these actions of war while comparing the fact that the examples in the new testament speak of Kingdom building and not international politics. We can argue many differing political reasons for war but this is not the intention of the question. What does Jesus The Christ instruct Christians to do? Sure during differing incidents of war both from a civil standpoint within my borders and from an international perspective I have formed politically inspired opinions as I am human, but I think that I am wrong if I support my own political or geo-political opinion and not the instructions of God. Is'nt prayer the most effective weapon and also the only weapon given to Christians? Christians are the ones that I have posed the question to, not government. The Christians acceptance of war.

And I'm telling you that you STILL have church and government mixed up. You keep talking about spiritual vs. worldly weapons, but that has NOTHING to do with a nation going to war for whatever political reason. It ONLY applies to the church! Now if you want to talk about just vs. unjust war, that's getting somewhere. But as it stands it appears that you think that Christians are never to support or participate in any war, that they should be total pacifists.

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When is it acceptible to kill the innocent to get to the wicked? If my neighbour beats and kills some of his family and I decide to take action and get my guns and some of my family and friends and invade the house and in the process I kill some of his family and eventually I kill or capture him, was that acceptible loss and who made me the judge of such things? Lets add an additional scenario, let's say on top of killing and oppressing some of his family and enslaving some of the rest, he also threatens some of my family and may get the opportunity to carry out his threats am I now justified to go in an kill his family in the pursuit of getting to him? Is there no other way? While governments may think that it is okay, Christians cannot and should look to prayer for the protection of their country and their family James 5:16. See also acts 12:1-17

Again I have no desire to turn this into a political discussion.

Oh pish posh! It's obvious the whole question is about Iraq or some other of America's recent wars in your eyes. Be honest about it or forget it.

Kyle

I tell you, this man went down to his house justified.