...... Why make things so difficult?
I'm not the one making this difficult! ...Err... and haven't your mother ever told you not to roll your eyes at people, its impolite!
Let me turn the rant on...
testing.... 1... 2.. 3.. ok...
Here's what you say... and here's what I say... and here's why we are almost agreeing!
YOU: there is no "sleep" involved with the corporeal element of man.ME: THAT IS CORRECT!!! No where have I (nor the Bible)deffined a
body as something
always corporeal (physical would be a better word)!
YOU: The soul/person "sleeps", i.e., it is separated from the body which has the appearance of one sleeping...ME: ...and not only the appearence of sleep is connoted, but also an expectation of what everyone who is asleep will do and that is
awake!
YOU: ...but in actuality the soul is immediately taken to be with the Lord in heaven; the intermediate state wherein it awaits the consummation and its glorification...ME: ...and if you ask that soul (splirit would be a better word here), "Soul, where is your body?" It could answer you in-terms of its
body, "My
body is dead! But not for long! For it is awaiting its promised
resurection!"
or... it could answer you in-terms of its
corpse, "My
old body has been destroyed; it is no more! But not for long! For I am awaiting a promise! That is the
recreation of my body!"
Thus... a new body viewed in-terms of resurection is a dead body (when body and spirit separate). A new body viewed in-terms of re-creation is a destroyed body; a
corpse when body and spirit separate).
YOU: ...the intermediate state wherein it awaits the consummation and its glorificationME: THAT IS CORRECT!! that separation is a state and not just an event!
YOU: It is at this time that the incomplete person, having been separated from its earthly body, is given a body spiritual/incorruptible....
ME: ...This is how you chose to define the resurection of a body
from the dead or, when viewed in-terms of the corpse, the recreation of the new body
from non-existence. YOU: ...which apparently will be similar in outward appearance to the earthly/corruptible body, if we may use the example of happened to the Lord Christ.ME: ...and again... YOU ARE CORRECT!!!
Thus! where do we differ? Only in one thing... If all of you state and fervently believe that this body, at death, becomes a corpse -- a corpse which never inherits the Kingdom of God; a corpse which is so insuficient to be our body in the comming life that God Himself will have to recreate something a-new to house our spirit, how can we argue any importence into it?!
...why does it matter where the ball is if we are wearing the same jersey?
