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Kathy said: "Hunt says that Calvinism limits God’s saving grace to a select few, leaving the majority of mankind without hope or possibility of salvation (p. 78). The offer of salvation is extended only to the elect (p. 103). The truth is, Calvinists believe that God’s saving grace is freely offered to the whole world, and that there will be an innumerable company in heaven from every tribe on earth, purchased by Jesus’ blood (Rev. 5:9-12).
Will any here comment as to what this (Pro-Calvin) author is saying ?
Thank you, -Kathy The Reformed believes that God's call comes in two forms. One is the 'general' call when the Gospel goes forth into the world. This call is the Gospel. Everyone who hears the gospel receives this calling (and is free to act upon it). Man can resist this call. The other call is the 'effectual call' whereby the Holy Spirit regenerates those who will respond to the call. It is called effectual in that it is effectual. Man cannot resist this call. Hunt's fallacy and misrepresenting Calvinists is the belief that all is not called. Instead of limiting those who receive salvation as Hunt postulates, the Reformed believes that no one will respond to the call through his/hers own effort. So, if there was not the effectual call then no one will be saved. We are free but we are bound (slave) to our nature. Our pre-Christian nature is totally depraved, so we will never choose God on our own accord. The Holy Spirit through regeneration gives us a new nature whereby we can accept this calling. Therefore, man is without excuse. They heard the offer of the Gospel.
John Chaney
"having been firmly rooted and now being built up in Him and established in your faith . . ." Colossians 2:7
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