Pilgrim,

Aren’t you saying that we are bound by our nature... how we are born. We are all born in sin... totally depraved... except the elect. I know you will disagree. They weren’t really born in a state of total depravity... because they were born in a state of total grace.

Are you saying the elect are regenerated at birth? Thus they are saved?

I have not understood that responding to Grace implies ‘saving oneself’

That the Calvinistic system is the only system that has finally understood this... tells me what?

I know you can tell where my struggles are... I am not saying that I have made up my mind and decided.

That little voice is telling me that Calvin over-thought this system.

(I need time ...if the above is a knee-jerk reaction... I need to go through the pros/cons)