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Adopted said: Presumptive regeneration often assumes elected children on the part of parents without faithful care and instruction in their upbringing. Or, a tendency towards a physical inheritance rather than a spiritual one. To me, this is the same fault found in the Federal Vision. Denny, Actually, those who hold to Presumptive Regeneration strongly stress "faithful care and instruction" on the part of parents for their children. The error is that they "presume" the salvation of those children and thus the instruction consists not of a call to repentance and belief upon Christ unto justification (since they already presume them to be Christian, saved, or whatever) but rather the emphasis is upon sanctification. As one proponent of Presumptive Regeneration told me, "You don't tell your children to believe upon Christ in order to be saved, but rather you encourage them to be obedient to the covenant; sanctification. In simple terms, parents are to assure their children that they belong to Christ already and they should therefore live holy lives..... aka: synergism. You are correct, as I also mentioned in my reply to go E. F. Grant, that Presumptive Regeneration opens the door wide for the heresies of NPP, Federal Vision, etc., since they share some common elements re: "covenant". In His grace,
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