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Pilgrim said:
Perhaps you could expand on this a bit to show how an alleged embracing of God's "common grace", aka: benevolence to all mankind and "conditional covenant" contributed to the continental reformed churches downfall? BTW, if your sources are from the PRC, you do realize don't you that although they were and still are opposed to Presumptive Regeneration, they do practice the same.

In His grace,


Well I did say perhaps meaning as an alternative to the Presumptive Regeneration theory. Some believe if I understand correctly that common grace goes much further than God raining on the just and the unjust. The idea of a common grace leads to the idea that there is some kind of a special grace in the preaching of the gospel and that God has a desire (though fleeting) to save all even the reprobate.

The conditional covenant gives a child born in the covenant a blank check from God and he can cash it at any time based on his faith and repentance.

So I suppose the idea is that arminianism has lifted it's slippery head through these doctrines and has won the battle destroying both church and state.

After all if the church or nation have a god who is not a potter over the clay isn't it a matter of time before they live like it.

Wasn't Bavincks teaching of common grace widespread in the Netherlands in the 1900's? Also does anyone know what has happened to the churches that the PRCA refomed out of in the 20's and 50's, are the still sound?

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