<blockquote><font size=1>In reply to:</font><hr>[color:"blue"]I, like everyone else, am hopelessly lost; there’s absolutely nothing that I can do to save myself! </font><hr></blockquote><p> Well your statement has some truth in it. Everyone is hopelessly lost until certain ones are enabled by God’s grace to believe. But, after they are saved they are full of hope for they know of know greater thing that could have transpired in their lives. It is good that you acknowledge, [color:blue] there’s absolutely nothing that I can do to save myself</font color=blue>. May I ask, how you came to this conclusion?<br><br><blockquote><font size=1>In reply to:</font><hr>[color:"blue"]Now, what is it that I’m to be saved from, death. Or, this eternal punishment?</font><hr></blockquote><p> Well “eternal death” is a state in which “eternal punishment” is measured out. Thus, to be saved would be to saved from both and much, much more. But, that is merely one side—what one is saved “from”. An individual is saved “to” something as well— eternal life in which eternal blessings are measured out and much, much more.<br><br><blockquote><font size=1>In reply to:</font><hr>[color:"blue"]Do your really believe that you deserve to be burned alive forever by a loving god, are your sins so incredible? </font><hr></blockquote><p> YES. One of our problems as humans is that we do not understand how much even one sin offends the HOLY God of the universe. God is so HOLY (to an extent that we cannot fathom) that “one” sin by “us” is enough that He must, according to His nature, either measure out just punishment (eternal death…) or provide some other means of payment. God is loving, but He does not love sin. God is also just and thus must also measure our appropriate justice for crimes (sins) committed.<br><br><blockquote><font size=1>In reply to:</font><hr>[color:"blue"]I really don’t understand. I have lived some 60 years, I have met an incredible number of people, yet, I have never met a human being that deserves to be tortured like those Christian “saints” say that god is going to torture people because he cannot or will not save them.</font><hr></blockquote><p> God will save all He has predestined to save. He is all-powerful and will accomplish that which He has set out to do. Pilgrim answered your question about “torture”. There is a difference in “torture” and just punishment. Just punishment is what God is entitled to measure out and must measure out, according to His nature.<br><br><blockquote><font size=1>In reply to:</font><hr>[color:"blue"]Satan has brought suffering and death to the whole human race, but it is nothing like what awaits them after they die. </font><hr></blockquote><p> There is some truth here to what you state: Satan brought suffering and death to the whole human race. But, I must quickly and biblically add that man “freely accepted” sin and death that Satan tempted man with (Gen 3) over and against eternal life that God offered in the Garden. You are right, the suffering and death that awaits the unrepentant after this life cannot be fully fathomed, but it is just, for God is a just and perfect Being.<br><br><blockquote><font size=1>In reply to:</font><hr>[color:"blue"]According to you, Jesus Christ will torture forever or allow to be tortured the majority of the human race, and this is justice? In one moment, in the fires of hell, Jesus Christ will inflict or allow to be inflicted more pain and agony on each person than Satan inflicted on that person during their entire lifetime.</font><hr></blockquote><p> We have already discussed your term “torture,” thus I will not entertain it here. Here though you also have blamed God for man’s own sin. You are attempting to make God out the bad guy, but again, God is just in His punishment. It is His universe. He makes the rules. A judge who hands out a death penalty to a murderer is not considered unjust. The murderer is receiving his just reward for he has taken another human being life. God is just as He would never hand out a punishment that was not warranted and just. <br><br><blockquote><font size=1>In reply to:</font><hr>[color:"blue"]If this torture lasts forever then each person will suffer more than all the suffering of all the people that ever lived on earth, many times over.</font><hr></blockquote><p> Here you have made the assumption that man stops sinning after he enters hell, but that would mean that some how he became glorified aside from God’s redemptive act. Unregenerate man keeps sinning, even in hell, and thus hell is for eternity—which is just since he keeps on sinning.<br><br><blockquote><font size=1>In reply to:</font><hr>[color:"blue"]Pharaoh, Nero, and Hitler, the devil himself, name the worst that have ever lived on this earth, the most evil people or beings that have ever lived, you make Jesus Christ a billions times, infinite times, more vicious an vindictive than all the evil men that have ever lived. And, this is justice?</font><hr></blockquote><p> The individuals you have named were indeed evil and manifested more evil than many others have. But, once again everyone of us is capable of the same horrors as these above and more, because of our depraved states. God restrains much of our sin (and Satan himself) from manifesting forth all that we/he is capable of. <br><br><blockquote><font size=1>In reply to:</font><hr>[color:"blue"]Please, I just don’t get it, I cannot worship such a being. Please, I'm begging you, help me understand this, do your really believe that God Almighty will do such as thing?</font><hr></blockquote><p> If your pleas here are sincere, then I suggest that you cry out to God to give you a heart of understanding. Salvation comes first then “completion” (more so in glory than now, but at least an understanding now that can be rested upon and enjoyed…) of your understanding. <br><br>Our prayers are with you.

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