The Highway Forums General Discussion Theology Discussion Forum Concerning the freedom of the will

<blockquote><font size=1>In reply to:</font><hr>[color:"blue"]The irony is, Arminianism actually destroys human responsibility by allowing for choices to spring from nothing, without ryhme reason or cause.</font><hr></blockquote><p><br><br>Ron, that's a good Point. John Frame, in his book, "No other God:A Response to Open Theism", makes similar statements when he uses an analogy in a court setting using example of a man, named Hubert who supposedly has the so-called libertarian freedom. Frame says :<br><blockquote>"Civil courts normally assume the opposite of libertarianism, namely, that the conduct of criminals arises from motives...If Hubert's action could be shown to be causeless, independent of motives, then he would likely be judged insane and therefore not responsible, rather than guilty. Such an act would be an accident, not a purposeful choice. Indeed, if Hubert's action was completely independent of his character, desires, and motives, one could well ask in what sense this action was really Hubert's. And if it was not Hubert's action, how can he be held responsible for it? We see, then, that rather than being the foundation of moral responsibility, libertarainism destroys it."</blockquote><br><br>He provides an excellent critique of the arminian and open-theist idea of liberatarianism on pages 122-130.<br><br>in Christ,<br>Carlos