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thredj #22791 Tue Mar 29, 2005 6:14 PM
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Hopefully no one's getting frustrated by my seminary questions. <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/Banghead.gif" alt="" /> If so, <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/smirk.gif" alt="" />
A Pastor that I recently met told me to take a look at Truett Seminary @ Baylor University in Waco <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/takethat.gif" alt="" /> He said that they were affiliated with the Texas Baptists. Anyone know much about this group? I see they split from the SBC but when I read the camparison between the two groups I knew about as much as I did when I didn't know nuttin'. He also stated that I should be looking for a seminary that focused on "spiritual formation" and "covenant groups".

When I told him I'd been looking at SBC seminaries he said they were good, "they have some of the best homoletic scholars"...BUT they lacked in the area of ethics??? I asked what he meant by that but I still don't quite understand. He said the SBC seminaries would be more conservative and fundamentalist and he would recommend a more moderate school <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/shrug.gif" alt="" />...So, what d'ya think about that info?

Just in case you're wondering...I am looking into these things on my own but I wanna get some varying opinions and ask a lot of questions before I make a decision (which will need to be done here in a few months...well at least application submissions anyway)...taking a big step here, just don't want it to be off the edge of a cliff if...yaknowwhatimean.


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The Texas Baptists organization being referred belongs to the moderate / liberal wing of the SBC.


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Thanks John...that answers a question and eliminates a possibility.


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Hi Thredj,

In reply to your question here:


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So here's my question: Would it be unwise and presumptuous to assume that one could attend a biblically sound seminary and then go back to serve in an American Baptist Church, or is the goal to change one church in the denomination futile?
I am including this little piece from the latest article posted by Cook:

"It is often argued that Christians ought to seek the reformation of apostate churches and not separate from them like some “holy elite”. In the past Evangelicals have been notorious for leaving churches on the grounds that they have become unspiritual in their way of life; so had the Corinthians, but Paul did not anathematise them. We must not separate from other Christians by reason of their low spirituality — our own is not very high — but we do say with Scriptural warrant that we ought to separate from people who are perverting and rejecting the truth of the gospel, however religious or respectable their lives may be. Luther affirmed in his sixty-second thesis: “The true treasure of the Church is the sacrosanct gospel of the glory and grace of God.” Yes; and if the treasure has gone, the receptacle ceases to be the treasury. A church without the Word of God is not a church."


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yes Tom...but they've banned Bill O'Reilly!!

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Can anyone provide me with some info regarding Talbot School of Theology @ Biola University? Also, does anyone have any reco's on any good graduate programs in philosophy and/or apologetics?

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tj,

If your question is in regard to your interest in furthering your own theological education, may I remind you that you have been given several lists of "good" schools, i.e., those who at least profess to hold to the orthodox faith and who have as their theological basis; Calvinism. So, why would you continue to ask about schools which are anything but in agreement with your own beliefs? <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/scratch1.gif" alt="" />

As to Talbot, simply typing in "Talbot School of Theology" in [Linked Image] will give you this: Google search results

See also: Talbot's 'Doctrinal Statement'

And also: Talbot's 'Faculty Profiles'

You should note that William Lane Craig is on the faculty and Research Professor of Philosophy. In case you aren't familiar with Craig, he is one of the foremost promoters of "Open Theism" today. <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/rolleyes2.gif" alt="" />

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...I should've known by the scary eyes icon that this wouldn't be good. <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />

I hear ya loud and clear Pilgrim, and that's why I asked the question. As I'm still trying to figure out what area of ministry I might be called to I thought about apologetics and also philosophy. However, I by no means desire to pursue or receive a theological education via a heretical institution. One of the reasons I even began to look at Talbot was because for some reason I thought John MacArthur graduated from that institution and I also had read that they had one of the premier philosophy and apologetics programs (but now that I think about it, I may have read that on the Talbot website). Anyway, my question has been answered and the mention of "open theism" is all I needed to hear for me to jet.


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Big Mac did graduate from Talbot (B.D., M.Div., D.D.). However Big Mac use not to be “fully” Reformed either. While Talbot does have William Lane Craig (known for philosophy), as Pilgrim stated “open theism” is his hobby horse. If you are looking for a good philosophy department consider RTS or WTS. RTS has Dr. Charles S. MacKenzie (very well known in philosophical circles) who now teaches free at RTS (classes aren’t free, just his salary <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />). RTS also has John Frame who is pretty good (<img src="/forum/images/graemlins/rofl.gif" alt="" />) at apologetics. Of late there has been talk that R.C. Sproul may be returning, but that has not been made official. WTS has William Edgar and K. Scott Oliphint in their Apologetics Department. Sinclair Ferguson teaches at both campuses. Each are excellent. Each school offers a similar, but yet 'little' different curriculum. The number of Philosophy students seems to be growing. And for the Baptists, there is even a Baptist Union at RTS.


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