The Highway Forums General Discussion Open Forum question on John Murray

I had just been reading some material on Eschatalogy and I came across several writings that had conflicting information. Some say that Murray was "Post-Mil" while others claim that He was "A-mil".[img]http://www.the-highway.com/w3timages/icons/shrug.gif" alt="shrug" title="shrug[/img]. Does any know for sure which position he actually held?<br><br>Thanks,<br>Carlos

<blockquote><font size=1>In reply to:</font><hr>[color:"blue"]Some say that Murray was "Post-Mil" while others claim that He was "A-mil".. Does any know for sure which position he actually held?</font><hr></blockquote><p><br><br>Professor Murray had been Amillennial in his early Seminary life due to the influence of G. Vos whom he had highly regarded. Probably the other Dutch reformed professors at WTS had only re-enforced this view, since there were no other postmills on the WTS faculty after Machen had passed away and Allis had left. Thus, the postmillennial legacy of old Princeton Seminary had been severed until Murray's late career change to the postmill view. <br><br>BTW since Murray had been originally raised in the Free Presbyterian Church of Scotland before coming to America, it is entirely probable that he had been postmillennial before his career at WTS, since the FPCS is an explictly postmillennial denomination after the tradition of Jonathan Edwards and the Puritans. <br><br>And in the early 1960's, Gary North was a student at WTS and he had been a Premillennialist at that time. When he studied under John Murray in his systematics class, he noted Murray's Amillennialism. Yet North also attended Murray's off-campus lectures on Romans, which later became his published commentary on that Epistle. It was Murray's off campus lecture's which were distinctly postmillennial (on chapter 11) that had converted North from Chiliasm to postmillennialism. Several years later, North wrote an article for the Banner of Truth magazine entitled, Towards a Recovery of Hope (circa 1971) which mentioned Murray's postmillennialism, as well as the puritan roots of postmillenialism.<br><br>BTW Oswald T. Allis's postmillennialism is not found in his classic book against Dispensationalism (Prophecy and the Church, but rather it is found in his Introduction to the Roderick Campbell's, "Israel and the New Covenant[/i], which is one of the best postmillennial books ever written, even much better than Boettner's book. I hope P & R Publishing Co. reprints it again some day (They were the original publishers of it in 1954).<br><br>Machen's postmillennialism is found in the testimony of his colleague, Paul Wooley, who claims that he was. This is not surprising given that Machen was a graduate of old postmillennial Princeton Seminary and a former student and colleague of B.B. Warfield. Machen writings on "Christianity and Culture" also tend to have implicitly postmillennial outlook.<br><br>Colin