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Tue Apr 06, 2010 11:04 PM
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Wait don't go moving this to the recovering charismatic forum. I am looking for some good apologetics regarding Kuhlman's teaching and errors.
Peter
If you believe what you like in the gospels, and reject what you don't like, it is not the gospel you believe, but yourself. Augustine of Hippo
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"Kathryn Kuhlman"
1. 1907-1976
2. She completed tenth grade. This appears to be common thread in this rebellious and sectarian movement, an uneducated clergy. Further, like Montanism, women in ministry roles.
3. She began her public sinistry at age 16, in 1923. St. Paul's command to Timothy governing eldership, to wit, "not a novice" had and still has no governing role amongst these rebels and sectarians.
4. In 1933, age 26, she settles in Denver, CO. By 1935, at age 28, a 2000-seat "Denver Revival Tabernacle" is built.
5. However, during the Denver phase, she started hankey-pankey--called adultery, lawlessness, and antimonism--with another Pentecostal minister. This man was married with children. Cruelly, odiously, lawlessly, unbiblically, and sociopathically, this "wolf" divorced his wife, left his children, and married his co-adulteress and female wolf, Kuhlman.
6. After six years of adulterous copulation, the two adulterers divorced. Kuhlman and the other wolf, though divorced, continued in their ministries.
7. She operated in Pittsburg, PA and Pasadena, CA in subsequent years while starting radio and TV ministries.
8. The older Pentecostals distrusted her on two grounds: 1) a divorcee and 2) she did not insist on their version of tongues (that rebellious and non-biblical version still held by the obstinate rebels).
9. Dozens often were "slain in the spirit" (rightly, we do not capitalize the word "Spirit" for this rebellion, since it applies to one of the Majesty Persons of the Triune God and not this unbiblical and rebellious practice).
10. Oral Roberts conferred a (meaningless, cheap, unearned) doctorate on the tenth-grader in 1972.
11. Her biographer, Jamie Buckingham admits, "She loved her expensive clothes, precious jewels, luxury hotels, and first class travel." Jamie Buckingham, "Daughter of Destiny: Kathryn Kuhlman...Her Story" (1976), 247.
12. This is one of Hinn's major "inspirations." —from Phil Veitch
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Thanks don't think its going to convince this guy though he edited one of her books I just learned.
Peter
If you believe what you like in the gospels, and reject what you don't like, it is not the gospel you believe, but yourself. Augustine of Hippo
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There is an old adage which is quoted both ways: “A man who has an argument is always at the mercy of a man who has an experience.” OR “A man with an experience is never at the mercy of a man with an argument.” In other words, you are probably correct that bringing facts to this man to consider isn't going to convince him. But the Holy Spirit, the real Holy Spirit can convince him by using your argument, i.e., the Spirit works through means. The question is... Are you willing to spend the time and frustration bringing your arguments to him? Or, should you shake the dust off your shoes and move on? 
simul iustus et peccator
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Well as expected the man had no further contact with me, not that I am surprised at this at all.
Peter
If you believe what you like in the gospels, and reject what you don't like, it is not the gospel you believe, but yourself. Augustine of Hippo
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