Thanks Ron D, that is a good way of looking at it. I would agree that the God was gracious in the covenant of works in the sense that it was out of his goodness and love, if thats what you mean by grace. The reason i believe the covenant of works was not by grace is because sin has not entered the picture yet. The pre-fall covenant relationship between God and adam was not by grace because their was no demerit to overcome. Adam definitely did not deserve this relationship or earn it. We do not see grace until Gen 3:15.

Do you agree with that?


I am not sure if there is a lack of understanding on my part or yours, or if we really do disagree. Or would you say I belong in california?