Originally Posted by JesusFan
Is there any difference based upon if God is directly determining what happens, or is indirectly allowing it to haoppen?
yep ALL THINGS have been determined, decreed, foreordained by God from eternity. NOTHING is "indirectly allowed to happen". God is sovereign in both power and authority and does all things according to His good pleasure. IF there was but one single miniscule thing which God has not purposed, then God would not be God as He is described in the Bible. And, if anyone believes that God does not determine and providentially bring to pass ALL THINGS without exception... Dr. R.C. Sproul says they are an Atheist, and I heartily agree. grin

For want of a nail a shoe was lost,
for want of a shoe a horse was lost,
for want of a horse a rider was lost,
for want of a rider an army was lost,
for want of an army a battle was lost,
for want of a battle the war was lost,
for want of the war the kingdom was lost,
and all for the want of a little horseshoe nail.


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simul iustus et peccator

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