Dear Pilgrim,<br>I apologize if some of my posts are a bit unclear to you or others on this board. I do not want to create division I seek your forgiveness If I have done so. My points are as following If you know howard personally like I do then you will understand where he is coming from and is acting out of the convictions of his heart and with all sincerity. I as well as him view all christians whether they be baptist or presbyterian who confess in the one true living God to have been given salvation. Now the area of conflict is thus that if paedo is correct and the sacrement that should be upheld then credo pastors are in err and should not be pastors if they deny the correct function of the church same goes if it is the other way around. Does not mean that credo men can not be theologians and there very good ones as I like AW pink considerably. Also I do not deny that men are used by God in bringin the knowledge of his Son to his people. Im just not keen on placing alot of emphasis on how great a man he or she is who brought this knolwedge to glorify them over the true giver who is Christ who throught the Holy Spirit working in men or various ways brings the love of God to mens hearts. I apologize if some of my comments have been sarcastic,and I will do my best to refrain from such language. <br><br> In Christ Blade