Pilgrim,<br>I think you hit it on the head exactly with your "rant" on denial of Total Depravity, that there is some good in everybody. Sadly, as we move further and further away from our marginally Christian society, we should expect this to be the case. <br><br>To your comment on BF Skinner, I would also like to throw in (ideally I would throw him out) good ol' John Dewey. <br><br>Steve

Grace is not common.