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Pilgrim, I'm still not 100% clear on this. All of those texts deal directly and specifically in regard to those who are NOT "unborn, infants, mentally retarded, etc." but rather to those who are physically/mentally capable of hearing and comprehending the Gospel. Perfectly understandable, yes. The answer to your question is found in the fact that no one is capable of hearing, never mind believing upon Christ unless they are "born again" (aka: regenerated). Ok, I'm a little confused by this. Is justification and regeneration the same thing? Or they are 2 things that occur at the same time? It is from the newly (re)created nature that the ability to hear (inward call; irresistible grace) and believe flow. Now I am HECTICALLY confused! Hehe! I recall being convicted of sin and my hopelessness before God BEFORE I was saved by grace through faith. Doesn't the inward call (i.e. conviction of sin and realising one's total depravity) start to happen BEFORE one is regenerated? Or am I misunderstanding what the inward call is? AHHH! I'm so confused! All I know is that the blood of Jesus is sufficient to cleanse me from my sin! <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> However, in the case of those individuals you have asked about, the outward expressions of regeneration will not be evident. I still don't understand how they can come to salvation without hearing/reading/grasping/understanding the way of salvation. Are you implying that God reveals His plan of salvation to those people through spiritual means? Is there Scripture to back this up? I actually think it's my confusion as to what exactly JUSTIFICATION and REGENERATION are that are the cause of my confusion.. Sincerely, Dave
[color:"blue"] ~ The worth & excellence of a man is measured by the object of his love. That is why we make God the object of our love! ~ [/color]
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