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speratus said:J_Edwards wrote: In Acts 22:16, Luke wrote of Paul’s salvation experience. Paul was SAVED prior to baptism (Acts 9:15, he is a chosen vessel unto me; 9:17, Brother Saul). He knew Christ as LORD (Acts 22: 8, 10) prior to his baptism. Paul is not being saved by water, as he was already saved on the Damascus Road. Paul’s baptism was a physical description of the covenant relationship that he as an “adult” (not an infant) had already entered into. Paul was saved when it pleased God to call him by His grace. Gal. 1:13. He was born again of water and the Spirit in baptism. John 3:5-7. DEAL WITH THE TEXT....... and you will find that your view is exposed as error and thus you can joyfully repent of it. YOUR account of the salvation of Paul is in direct opposition and contradictory to Paul's own inspired account: Acts 22:8-16 (ASV)"And I answered, Who art thou, Lord? And he said unto me, I am Jesus of Nazareth, whom thou persecutest. And they that were with me beheld indeed the light, but they heard not the voice of him that spake to me. And I said, What shall I do, Lord? And the Lord said unto me, Arise, and go into Damascus; and there it shall be told thee of all things which are appointed for thee to do. And when I could not see for the glory of that light, being led by the hand of them that were with me I came into Damascus. And one Ananias, a devout man according to the law, well reported of by all the Jews that dwelt there, came unto me, and standing by me said unto me, Brother Saul, receive thy sight. And in that very hour I looked up on him. And he said, The God of our fathers hath appointed thee to know his will, and to see the Righteous One, and to hear a voice from his mouth. For thou shalt be a witness for him unto all men of what thou hast seen and heard. And now why tarriest thou? arise, and be baptized, and wash away thy sins, calling on his name."
Now, please tell me what was the spiritual state of Paul before he was baptized? Did all that transpired on the Damascus Road and all that took place with Ananias, who btw called him "brother", occur while Paul was yet unregenerate; he being given a vision of the resurrected Christ, ears to hear His voice and with that a desire and will to obey Christ?  In His Grace,
simul iustus et peccator
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