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geomic1 states,

If “Hell” is a place of eternal conscious punishment, then yes, there will be sin in Hell. If “Hell” is of a limited duration of conscious punishment and then annihilation, no there will not be sin, because the sinner no longer exist physically or spiritually (Mt. 10:28). It wouldn’t be reprobates are glorified to a state of sinlessness, but that they no longer exist to commit sin. Thus the New World and New Heaven, are without a place of eternal punishment of the wicked in some darken recess of the universe if the “Annihilation” people are correct.
Indeed, just avoid the answer! Reprobates do not cease to sin when they enter Hell for they have no Redeemer to make them sinless. If they cease not to sin then their punishment MUST continue and thus it will be endless. Annihilationism would be an end to eternal punishment and thus a relief for these reprobates.

I do not have the time to destroy the isogesis of your copy and pasted article. I will state that the Bible speaks of eternal punishment and not Fudge’s or Bacchiocchi (a Seventh-day Adventist) idea of eternal non-existence (Seventh-day Adventists & Jehovah’s Witnesses believe the devil and demons will be annihilated along with evil men). In addition, as a 7th Day Adventist, Bacchiocchi believes that there is no conscious intermediate state, that between death and resurrection the believer does not enjoy a conscious existence in the presence of Christ but "sleeps."

Eternal non-existence conflicts with Scripture and does not take into account the whole counsel of God, which cults are famous for. Look at:

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Rev 20:10 And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where are also the beast and the false prophet; and they shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.

Rev 14:10-11 he also shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is prepared unmixed in the cup of his anger; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb: and the smoke of their torment goeth up for ever and ever; and they have no rest day and night, they that worship the beast and his image, and whoso receiveth the mark of his name.

Mt 25:46 And these shall go away into eternal punishment: but the righteous into eternal life.
These verses very clearly state that the torment of those in Hell is for ever and ever and it is day and night—in another words it is continuous. There is no mention of an eternal non-existence. Matthew 25:46 is a very interesting verse. It speaks of conscious suffering. Punishment entails suffering; and suffering necessarily entails consciousness. John Gerstner states that "one can exist and not be punished; but no one can be punished and not exist. Annihilation means the obliteration of existence and anything that pertains to existence, such as punishment. Annihilation avoids punishment, rather than encountering it.” The punishment of the wicked is just as eternal as our eternal God (Rom 16:26, Heb 9:14, 13:8, and Rev 4:9).

Another sample of this unbiblical isogesis is in your comments;

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If “Hell” is of a limited duration of conscious punishment and then annihilation, no there will not be sin, because the sinner no longer exist physically or spiritually (Mt. 10:28).
Here you defend your thesis with Matt 20:28, but fail to understand the meaning and nuances of the Greek word “destroy.” If we compare such passages such as Matt 10:28, Luke 15:4, 8, and 24 we discover a very unique way Greek words are used. In each of these verses the Greek word apollumi (destroy, lost) is used:

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Matt 10:28 And be not afraid of them that kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him who is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.

Luke 14:4 What man of you, having a hundred sheep, and having lost one of them, doth not leave the ninety and nine in the wilderness, and go after that which is lost, until he find it?

Luke 15:8 Or what woman having ten pieces of silver, if she lose one piece, doth not light a lamp, and sweep the house, and seek diligently until she find it?

Luke 15:28 for this my son was dead, and is alive again; he was lost, and is found. And they began to be merry.
The sheep, coin, the son and soul continue to exist even though lost! Thus, when God speaks of “destroying” the soul and body in Hell it is speaking of the continuation of existence in a lost state or ruined state.

Annihilationism is heresy!


Reformed and Always Reforming,