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Pilgrim said:
Joe k,

You may not be sure what a hyper-Calvinist <strike>seminary</strike> cemetery is, but I DO. The one I attended flatly denies and focuses most of their attention upon:

1) The "Free Offer" of the Gospel, i.e., that the offer of salvation in Christ is to be indiscriminately to all, without discrimination. The crux of the matter is whether or not there is anyone who is exempt from the promise of salvation upon the prerequisites of repentance and faith. The "offer" is universal. But the aspect of universal "acceptance" is something which all Calvinists reject. Calvinism expects that whoever hears the Gospel must repent and believe. But it does not expect that all who hear will do so, for only those who are called can, i.e., are given the ability. The word may connotes permission, which is an entirely different thing. All men may repentant and believe and are thus commanded to do so in the Gospel.

(b) A subset of #1, That all, without discrimination are to repent and believe upon Christ. They insist that only the elect have warrant to believe upon Christ. Thus of necessity, one must first ascertain if one is an elect before the "right" is given to repentant and believe unto justification.

2) "Common Grace", i.e., that God extends benevolence to all men without discrimination. They categorically deny that God shows any benevolence whatsoever to the reprobate.

The overwhelming majority of Calvinists have rejected all of the above and thus the term "hyper-Calvinist", i.e., one who goes beyond historic Calvinism.

As to whether or not you are a "hyper", you decide. I don't know much of anything about you and therefore it would be silly for me to offer any judgment in your case.

In His grace,

Then Pilgrim, your seminary is wrong in its definition!!!!

Where did you go the PRC seminary in GR Michigan? Look, perhaps we are speakign past each other. I am not proposing the beliefs of some strict baptists who adhere to these consequences, but I get tired of the label when it is not used correctly. Your number one is in regards to duty faith and duty repentance, whch I stated HC's will deny. So we agree there. Benevolence is not denied by true HC's, but saving grace, agape grace per se is denied. Of which I agree with.The scripture of the sun and rain is used to promote some common grace, but it is in serious error, becuase if that were the case then those who receive more sun or more rain would be considered in better shape!!!!.

Again, do you think Gill was a HC? In some areas perhaps.

Read the Goatyard confession. Now it was written under his care, but i have read excerpts of his writings that do promote duty faith/repentance.

I will tell you who the true Hypers are, and that are the hardshellers. Those who say an elect person can live their whole life without coming to faith. Those that do not evangelize. Those who look for evidence of ones election before preaching the Gospel. WHo was the guy who argued with William Gadsby about evangelising? He was a hardsheller.

Like I said, Brine has written some of the best material i have read, as well as twisse.

There never was a sinner half as big as Christ is as a Savior.