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speratus said:
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Pilgrim said:

At the risk of being too brief, hyper-Calvinism always posits at least these two points:

1) A total denial of any "Free Offer" of the Gospel. (details to follow)
2) A denial of anything that even hints at what is called, "Common Grace". (admittedly, sometimes with good reason)

Could a HC deny the free offer of "common grace" (i.e., non-salvic) in the gospel call but accept that the reprobate do benefit from "common grace"?


All mankind benefit from the benevolence of the Lord. It is as simple as that. Here is the rub though. "A good life" was used by the puritans for instance to determine ones election. Every instance in ones life was either favor or judgement. "Good harvest this year, Gods favor" "No harvest= God's judgement". THis is so contrary to scripture when taken to such an extremem level. Many puritans who navel gazed all their life actually went mad determining their election. All one has to do is look to Christ and realize this line of thinking is very false. He was scorned, rejected, spit at, hungered, poor, and Lastly died a horendous death. Even Paul was left for dead, shipwrecked, "thorned" etc etc etc.

As far as spurgeon, pilgrim hit the nail. This sermon was his worst. Terrible and I have no clue what he was trying to say. But this does not an arminian make. IT makes one fallible. THis is what we always must remember.

There never was a sinner half as big as Christ is as a Savior.