John tells me that this has been discussed here before, so my apologies if this has been addressed recently.

I was in AMsterdam with my husband recently, and we walked through the old district which is of course perfectly lovely with regard to architecture, and a veritable cesspool morally. What was it that caused Holland to fall so far? Some have said it is the doctrine of presumptive regeneration. What is that, and what have been its steps that led to Holland's fall? Has it/Is it happening here? What other facotrs contributed to Holland's demise? Could it not have been the pride of its commercial success? Or are these two things related? <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/sick.gif" alt="" />

Stand Fast, Craigellachie!