In dialogues with non-reformed Christians a common problem I run into is that they can't get over election.

Out of exasperation I'm coming to the conclusion that I simply need to say: "Forget election, simply put Christ first and foremost and pray for the strength to do so!"

We may all agree that the Bible is filled with GOd's revealed truths or desire for man - God's decree or hidden truth is hinted to as well.

But are us Reformed being overly presumptuous in focusing on the hidden truths??? - when the Bible appears pretty straightfoward in the presentation of the revealed truths for man to obey and follow. Are we turning the Bible upside down to some extent and isolating the verses that focus on GOd's sovereignty and elective decree which does not seem to encompass a majority of the Word - in fact if it were not for Romans 9 we would have a much more difficult time making our cases.

Now with all this being said - I still believe in God's elective decree and that He has divinely chosen a Paul while leaving many other over to themselves. But is the Bible suppose to be presented the way we do in which the divine decree, election and predestination are at the forefront (i.e. Canons of Dordt) - Isn't that a confusing and insecurity provoking start point, especially when witnessing to those who are babes in the word or non-believers or even seasoned Christians of the non-Reformed variety.

Once again, if it wasn't for Augustine the Reformed perspective would probably never have been taught???

Last edited by AJC; Wed Feb 07, 2007 9:30 AM.
The mercy of God is necessary not only when a person repents, but even to lead him to repent, Augustine