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CovenantInBlood said:
The problem, especially with regards to the reprobate, is that men cannot be held accountable for things which they have no ability to choose. So if God were to force a man to murder another person, against the man's will, then how can that man be held accountable when he did not make the choice?

I dont know. Becasue God says man is. I can live with that. Like I pointed out earlier, scripture does not give us a clear answer. In my first post regarding Romans 9, again this question is asked. And Paul only says "Who are you to reply against God. Job begged God for answers and was given none. So why must we concoct some misnomer of 'mans responsibility" as if we need some answer. I personally dont. I know man is held accountable for sin. But yet God ordains all. and "WHo are we to reply against God?" Thats all Paul said. The reprobate are not reprobated becasue of sin, they are reprobated becasue of His will alone. So why does sin have to play a part? I know this whole conversation encompasses a ton of territory. And I appreciate you and Pilgrim. I just see no problem saying that God can manipulate man and does all the time into fulfilling His will. And still hold man accountable for his actions. Becasue He is God.

There never was a sinner half as big as Christ is as a Savior.