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As a former Catholic, there are many problems inherent in Roman Catholic doctrine, and worship which must be considered. Much more important than just that “salvation is works”. The Roman system is based upon the Mass, ritualism, and sacramentalism. There are no sacraments, as such delineated in the Bible. There are two Ordinances which were instituted by Christ, Baptism and the Lord's Supper or Communion if you like.
Communion in the Roman Church is known as the Holy Eucharist. The Catholic Church teaches that the priest has the power to change the bread and the wine into the actual body and blood of Jesus Christ each time he presides at the Mass. This is known as Transubstantiation. That the priest actually calls down Jesus Christ and re-sacrifices Him on the altar. I am not going to be quoting the scriptures here, but we know that Jesus 'died once and for all'. If we don't know that it is useless to go through all of that.
The Catholic Church claims to have the power through their sacrament of penance to forgive sins by auricular confession. But Scripture tells us that only God has the power to forgive sins. It also claims that baptism is necessary to forgive Original Sin. The Catholic Church offers prayer through intermediaries, the Saints, particularly the Virgin Mary, through her many alleged apparitions. They have also elevated her status to almost that of God the Father, while Jesus appears in a nearly submissive role to that of His 'mother'. Nowhere in Scripture will you find any basis for this. The Church claims that Mary was 'assumed' body and soul into heaven, without undergoing natural death and that she is the Queen of Heaven. Nowhere in the Bible do we find that Mary was accorded any special status other than that as the mother of Jesus Christ. The Catholic Church calls her the Mother of God! It is interesting to me that if Mary had been 'assumed' quite possibly John, who cared for her, or some other apostle or biblical writer would have attested to this. John certainly would have been around long after this had occurred. It would have been an event that would have rivaled even the Resurrection and Ascension of our Lord. It certainly would have been worth recording in Scripture. These are traditions (of men) that have been added through the years. They should have no standing at all.
The Roman Catholic Church claims that it is the One True Church, founded by Christ upon Peter. History tells us that it is not such. The 'Roman' Catholic originated some time after the Emperor Constantine made Christianity a state religion in Rome in 317 A.D. It certainly was not around in Acts, during Pentecost, all those were Jews.
There are many other doctrines other than these which are contrary to the Holy Bible.:
The Cult of Mary: I am the LORD; that is my name; my glory I give to no other, nor my praise to carved idols. Isaiah 42:8
Salvation is only through the Lord. The Roman Church considers Mary to be a co-redemptorist with Jesus Christ.
And there is salvation in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved.” Acts 4:12
It is also important to have a 'personal relationship with 'Jesus Christ' rather than through rituals, and sacraments.
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OUCH, that must hurt!
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Kicking up sand?
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A few short questions for Scott
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An additional set of questions for Scott
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Paul_S
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Disconnect
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The Bottom Line
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A lesson in deduction
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Baltimore Oh!'s
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My Habits vs My Intentions
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Especially In The Morning
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Great Lessons from the Baltimore Catechism!
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Misrepresentaions of RC Justification
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