I agree with Voddie that kings and rulers are accountable to God, absolutely. Should they be consulting faithful church leaders - absolutely (but again, ethics, morality & righteous judgements are based on Christianity & scripture - it’s the foundation for all natural law, so consultation with True Religion is inherently advantageous for those that want good for the people). Should we be trying to groom magistrates, presidents and leaders to promote true religion and govern accordingly? Well, you’d probably have to blow up the leviathan that our bloated government has become and then I think you would need to keep the spheres separate. (You’d also have to blowup the culture and the media cause a kingdom divided can’t stand). So, Voddie is not saying anything would need to change but we would need to be more vocal. I’m ok with that. But what this guy Baird was saying was not consistent with what Voddie is saying. The main principle is that the government must be small (and not a nanny or police/military state) for true religion to not become politicized.

Last edited by Anthony C.; Mon Oct 20, 2025 7:39 PM.