Howard<br><br>A few years ago I had e-mail discussions with someone from Outside the Camp.<br>He said in with no reservation that any so called Calvinist that believed that either they were saved when they were Arminian, or who still believes that there are saved Arminians, have yet to be actually saved themselves.<br>Through more correspondence, I was also able to find out that he also believed that the vast majority of those who called themselves "Calvinists" were not actually saved.<br><br>On that site you will find a section called the Wall (or is it Hall) of Shame, that is growing. I understand he now considers ever John Calvin among the unsaved.<br>Personally, if I were you I would stay as far away from Outside the Camp as possible. Otherwise you may find yourself outside the Calvinist camp.<br><br>Tom