|

|
|
|
Robin
Lake Park, Georgia USA
Posts: 1,079
Joined: January 2002
|
|
|
|
Forums31
Topics8,348
Posts56,543
Members992
| |
Most Online2,383 Jan 12th, 2026
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Apr 2001
Posts: 15,025 Likes: 274
Head Honcho
|
Head Honcho
Joined: Apr 2001
Posts: 15,025 Likes: 274 |
Why isn't every human saved? Well maybe they would be if every single person who ever lived.... died in the womb or in infancy. Wrong question! <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> The right question is "Why is ANY person saved?" Why do you have this idea that unborn infants and babies are somehow more deserving of salvation than an adult? You have said that you can't imagine God sending an infant/fetus to hell. Why is that? Are they somehow qualified where an adult isn't? Again, I ask you to show me from Scripture where any human being, aside from the Lord Christ, isn't born with: 1) an inherited corruption of nature (dead in sins), and 2) the imputed guilt of Adam's transgression, either of which is sufficient in itself to condemn one to eternal punishment? This is something most every Arminian, Liberal, cultist, etc., claims; i.e., that until an overt sin is committed, the person is innocent and thus should that person die, they are saved. This is especially said of infants and the unborn. But the Scripture teaches that men are condemned to hell for two reasons: 1) because of who they are by nature, and 2) because of sins committed due to that nature. I don't see where infants or the unborn are exempt? Can you show me where this is mentioned in the Bible? <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/shrug.gif" alt="" /> You also said in a previous post, that infants can't/don't have faith. Oh really? How do you know this? Since repentance and faith are both fruits of regeneration, and regeneration is the sovereign work of the Holy Spirit as He wills which He works in all of God's elect, then why are the unborn and/or infants incapable of being regenerated, faith created and somehow expressed, perhaps by the reaching out of the soul. This would be no different than a cognizant adult, except that an adult has the physical ability to express what the soul does spiritually; e.g., make a vocal profession of faith. So, I again affirm that I agree with the WCF statement on the salvation of "elect infants". They are certainly salvable, for is there anything too hard for God? That even one person is saved is incomprehensible when one realizes just how sinful a human being is from conception. And if only one person was ever saved, it would be by an infinite expression of mercy and grace. In His Grace,
simul iustus et peccator
|
|
|
|
|
Entire Thread
|
Are those who die young always part of the elect?
|
MarieP
|
Fri Mar 12, 2004 12:10 AM
|
Re: Are those who die young always part of the elect?
|
Pilgrim
|
Fri Mar 12, 2004 1:06 AM
|
Re: Are those who die young always part of the elect?
|
MarieP
|
Fri Mar 12, 2004 1:16 AM
|
Re: Are those who die young always part of the elect?
|
Wes
|
Fri Mar 12, 2004 2:10 AM
|
Re: Are those who die young always part of the ele
|
john
|
Fri Mar 12, 2004 6:58 AM
|
Re: Are those who die young always part of the ele
|
grace2U
|
Fri Mar 12, 2004 7:40 AM
|
Re: Are those who die young always part of the ele
|
Pilgrim
|
Fri Mar 12, 2004 10:20 AM
|
Re: Are those who die young always part of the ele
|
MHeath
|
Fri Mar 12, 2004 2:42 PM
|
Re: Are those who die young always part of the ele
|
Pilgrim
|
Fri Mar 12, 2004 4:08 PM
|
Re: Are those who die young always part of the ele
|
MHeath
|
Fri Mar 12, 2004 5:31 PM
|
Re: Are those who die young always part of the ele
|
Anonymous
|
Fri Mar 12, 2004 5:59 PM
|
Re: Are those who die young always part of the ele
|
MHeath
|
Fri Mar 12, 2004 6:18 PM
|
Re: Are those who die young always part of the ele
|
Pilgrim
|
Fri Mar 12, 2004 10:07 PM
|
Re: Are those who die young always part of the ele
|
MHeath
|
Sat Mar 13, 2004 3:25 AM
|
Re: Are those who die young always part of the ele
|
Pilgrim
|
Sat Mar 13, 2004 3:51 AM
|
Re: Are those who die young always part of the ele
|
Anonymous
|
Sat Mar 13, 2004 2:45 PM
|
Re: Are those who die young always part of the ele
|
Pilgrim
|
Sat Mar 13, 2004 3:25 PM
|
Re: Are those who die young always part of the ele
|
Anonymous
|
Sun Mar 14, 2004 4:20 AM
|
Re: Are those who die young always part of the ele
|
Pilgrim
|
Sun Mar 14, 2004 9:37 AM
|
Re: Are those who die young always part of the ele
|
Anonymous
|
Mon Mar 15, 2004 2:43 PM
|
Re: Are those who die young always part of the ele
|
Anonymous
|
Mon Mar 15, 2004 10:37 PM
|
Re: Are those who die young always part of the ele
|
Anonymous
|
Tue Mar 16, 2004 12:46 PM
|
Re: Are those who die young always part of the ele
|
Anonymous
|
Sun Mar 14, 2004 12:51 AM
|
Re: Are those who die young always part of the ele
|
MHeath
|
Sun Mar 14, 2004 12:57 AM
|
Re: Are those who die young always part of the ele
|
Pilgrim
|
Sun Mar 14, 2004 3:30 AM
|
Re: Are those who die young always part of the ele
|
MHeath
|
Sun Mar 14, 2004 4:25 PM
|
Re: Are those who die young always part of the ele
|
Pilgrim
|
Sun Mar 14, 2004 5:42 PM
|
Re: Are those who die young always part of the ele
|
MHeath
|
Sun Mar 14, 2004 6:03 PM
|
Re: Are those who die young always part of the ele
|
Tom
|
Sun Mar 14, 2004 11:19 PM
|
Re: Are those who die young always part of the ele
|
Anonymous
|
Sun Mar 14, 2004 11:01 PM
|
Re: Are those who die young always part of the ele
|
Pilgrim
|
Sun Mar 14, 2004 11:23 PM
|
Re: Are those who die young always part of the ele
|
Tom
|
Sun Mar 14, 2004 11:32 PM
|
Re: Are those who die young always part of the ele
|
Anonymous
|
Sat Mar 13, 2004 4:28 AM
|
Re: Are those who die young always part of the ele
|
john
|
Sun Mar 14, 2004 9:55 AM
|
Re: Are those who die young always part of the ele
|
Anonymous
|
Tue Mar 16, 2004 11:53 AM
|
Re: Are those who die young always part of the ele
|
Stucco
|
Sat Mar 13, 2004 4:31 AM
|
Re: Are those who die young always part of the ele
|
MarieP
|
Sat Mar 13, 2004 1:04 PM
|
Re: Are those who die young always part of the ele
|
janean
|
Sat Mar 13, 2004 3:56 PM
|
Re: Are those who die young always part of the ele
|
Ruth
|
Sat Mar 13, 2004 4:09 PM
|
Re: Are those who die young always part of the ele
|
Tom
|
Sat Mar 13, 2004 6:25 PM
|
Re: Are those who die young always part of the ele
|
MarieP
|
Sat Mar 13, 2004 4:18 PM
|
Re: Are those who die young always part of the ele
|
MHeath
|
Sun Mar 14, 2004 12:02 AM
|
Re: Are those who die young always part of the ele
|
MHeath
|
Sun Mar 14, 2004 12:42 AM
|
Re: Are those who die young always part of the ele
|
Pilgrim
|
Sun Mar 14, 2004 2:51 AM
|
Re: Are those who die young always part of the ele
|
MarieP
|
Sun Mar 14, 2004 3:32 AM
|
Re: Are those who die young always part of the ele
|
MHeath
|
Sun Mar 14, 2004 5:03 PM
|
Re: Are those who die young always part of the ele
|
janean
|
Sun Mar 14, 2004 1:07 AM
|
Re: Are those who die young always part of the ele
|
MHeath
|
Sun Mar 14, 2004 1:24 AM
|
Re: Are those who die young always part of the ele
|
CovenantInBlood
|
Sun Mar 14, 2004 4:30 AM
|
Re: Are those who die young always part of the ele
|
MHeath
|
Sun Mar 14, 2004 4:35 PM
|
Re: Are those who die young always part of the ele
|
janean
|
Sun Mar 14, 2004 5:01 PM
|
Re: Are those who die young always part of the ele
|
MHeath
|
Sun Mar 14, 2004 5:05 PM
|
Re: Are those who die young always part of the ele
|
MarieP
|
Sun Mar 14, 2004 5:29 PM
|
Re: Are those who die young always part of the ele
|
MHeath
|
Sun Mar 14, 2004 5:43 PM
|
Re: Are those who die young always part of the ele
|
MarieP
|
Sun Mar 14, 2004 6:12 PM
|
Re: Are those who die young always part of the ele
|
MarieP
|
Sun Mar 14, 2004 5:26 PM
|
Re: Are those who die young always part of the ele
|
CovenantInBlood
|
Sun Mar 14, 2004 8:11 PM
|
Re: Are those who die young always part of the ele
|
MHeath
|
Sun Mar 14, 2004 9:10 PM
|
Re: Are those who die young always part of the ele
|
Tom
|
Sun Mar 14, 2004 10:29 PM
|
Re: Are those who die young always part of the ele
|
Anonymous
|
Tue Mar 16, 2004 12:21 PM
|
Re: Are those who die young always part of the ele
|
BrimstonePreacha
|
Wed Mar 17, 2004 2:47 PM
|
Re: Are those who die young always part of the ele
|
CovenantInBlood
|
Sat Mar 13, 2004 5:22 AM
|
Re: Are those who die young always part of the ele
|
Anonymous
|
Sat Mar 13, 2004 2:15 PM
|
Re: Are those who die young always part of the ele
|
Wes
|
Sat Mar 13, 2004 6:18 PM
|
Re: Are those who die young always part of the ele
|
john
|
Sun Mar 14, 2004 10:16 AM
|
Re: Are those who die young always part of the ele
|
MHeath
|
Sun Mar 14, 2004 4:05 PM
|
Re: Are those who die young always part of the ele
|
MarieP
|
Sun Mar 14, 2004 4:19 PM
|
Re: Are those who die young always part of the ele
|
MHeath
|
Sun Mar 14, 2004 4:31 PM
|
Re: Are those who die young always part of the ele
|
SBCalvinist
|
Sat Mar 20, 2004 6:49 PM
|
Re: Are those who die young always part of the ele
|
Wes
|
Sun Mar 14, 2004 5:52 PM
|
Re: Are those who die young always part of the ele
|
MHeath
|
Sun Mar 14, 2004 6:07 PM
|
Re: Are those who die young always part of the ele
|
Wes
|
Sun Mar 14, 2004 6:29 PM
|
Re: Are those who die young always part of the ele
|
MHeath
|
Sun Mar 14, 2004 6:36 PM
|
Re: Are those who die young always part of the ele
|
Wes
|
Sun Mar 14, 2004 7:10 PM
|
Re: Are those who die young always part of the ele
|
MHeath
|
Sun Mar 14, 2004 7:22 PM
|
Re: Are those who die young always part of the ele
|
Wes
|
Sun Mar 14, 2004 8:21 PM
|
Re: Are those who die young always part of the ele
|
MHeath
|
Sun Mar 14, 2004 9:17 PM
|
Re: Are those who die young always part of the ele
|
Pilgrim
|
Sun Mar 14, 2004 9:51 PM
|
Re: Are those who die young always part of the ele
|
MHeath
|
Mon Mar 15, 2004 2:22 AM
|
Re: Are those who die young always part of the ele
|
Wes
|
Mon Mar 15, 2004 2:42 AM
|
Re: Are those who die young always part of the ele
|
MHeath
|
Mon Mar 15, 2004 2:46 AM
|
Re: Are those who die young always part of the ele
|
Wes
|
Mon Mar 15, 2004 2:51 AM
|
Re: Are those who die young always part of the ele
|
MHeath
|
Mon Mar 15, 2004 2:53 AM
|
Re: Are those who die young always part of the ele
|
Wes
|
Mon Mar 15, 2004 3:13 AM
|
Re: Are those who die young always part of the ele
|
Anonymous
|
Tue Mar 16, 2004 12:13 PM
|
Re: Are those who die young always part of the ele
|
BrimstonePreacha
|
Wed Mar 17, 2004 2:43 PM
|
Re: Are those who die young always part of the ele
|
Anonymous
|
Wed Mar 17, 2004 3:09 PM
|
Re: Are those who die young always part of the ele
|
BrimstonePreacha
|
Fri Mar 19, 2004 1:35 PM
|
Re: Are those who die young always part of the ele
|
Pilgrim
|
Fri Mar 19, 2004 2:28 PM
|
Who Knew?
|
BrimstonePreacha
|
Fri Mar 19, 2004 10:58 PM
|
Re: Are those who die young always part of the ele
|
Anonymous
|
Fri Mar 19, 2004 2:57 PM
|
Re: Are those who die young always part of the ele
|
BrimstonePreacha
|
Fri Mar 19, 2004 11:06 PM
|
Re: Are those who die young always part of the ele
|
john
|
Sun Mar 14, 2004 9:14 PM
|
Re: Are those who die young always part of the ele
|
john
|
Sun Mar 14, 2004 9:28 PM
|
Re: Are those who die young always part of the ele
|
Pilgrim
|
Sun Mar 14, 2004 9:37 PM
|
Re: Are those who die young always part of the ele
|
john
|
Sun Mar 14, 2004 10:13 PM
|
Re: Are those who die young always part of the ele
|
john
|
Mon Mar 15, 2004 1:13 AM
|
Re: Are those who die young always part of the ele
|
BrimstonePreacha
|
Wed Mar 17, 2004 2:16 PM
|
Re: Are those who die young always part of the ele
|
Tom
|
Thu Mar 18, 2004 2:57 AM
|
Re: Are those who die young always part of the ele
|
BrimstonePreacha
|
Fri Mar 19, 2004 1:20 PM
|
Re: Are those who die young always part of the ele
|
MHeath
|
Mon Mar 15, 2004 2:29 AM
|
Re: Are those who die young always part of the ele
|
Anonymous
|
Mon Mar 15, 2004 3:07 AM
|
Re: Are those who die young always part of the ele
|
CovenantInBlood
|
Fri Mar 12, 2004 8:43 PM
|
Re: Are those who die young always part of the ele
|
Anonymous
|
Fri Mar 12, 2004 6:42 PM
|
Re: Are those who die young always part of the ele
|
MHeath
|
Fri Mar 12, 2004 8:23 PM
|
Re: Are those who die young always part of the ele
|
MarieP
|
Sat Mar 13, 2004 1:15 PM
|
Re: Are those who die young always part of the ele
|
janean
|
Sat Mar 13, 2004 3:11 PM
|
Re: Are those who die young always part of the ele
|
Pilgrim
|
Sat Mar 13, 2004 3:16 PM
|
Another way of salvation?
|
Anonymous
|
Sat Mar 13, 2004 7:48 PM
|
Re: Another way of salvation?
|
janean
|
Sat Mar 13, 2004 9:47 PM
|
Re: Another way of salvation?
|
Anonymous
|
Sat Mar 13, 2004 11:45 PM
|
Re: Are those who die young always part of the ele
|
BrimstonePreacha
|
Wed Mar 17, 2004 1:41 PM
|
Re: Are those who die young always part of the ele
|
BrimstonePreacha
|
Wed Mar 17, 2004 1:36 PM
|
Re: Are those who die young always part of the elect?
|
CovenantInBlood
|
Fri Mar 12, 2004 1:09 AM
|
|
|
|
0 members (),
487
guests, and
60
robots. |
|
Key:
Admin,
Global Mod,
Mod
|
|
|
|
S |
M |
T |
W |
T |
F |
S |
|
|
|
|
|
|
1
|
2
|
|
3
|
4
|
5
|
6
|
7
|
8
|
9
|
|
10
|
11
|
12
|
13
|
14
|
15
|
16
|
|
17
|
18
|
19
|
20
|
21
|
22
|
23
|
|
24
|
25
|
26
|
27
|
28
|
29
|
30
|
|
31
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
There are no members with birthdays on this day. |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|