Well Joe,
That's your opininion, but it certainly isn't mine <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
'He who believes and is baptized will be saved; but he who does not believe will be condemned' [whether he's baptized or not] Seems simple enough to me.

You are equating circumcision with water baptism, something which neither I nor the Scriptures ever do. In doing so you are putting the new wine into old bottles. However, it is worth noticing that the apostate Israelites are called uncircumcised of heart (eg. Jer 9:26; Acts 7:51). Something had happened externally to these Jews which was not reflected internally, and it made their circumcision of none effect in the eyes of God.

Have a nice holiday (or whatever it is),
Steve

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