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Wes said:

Unfortunately you missed my point. What I wrote was, "Actually not all household baptisms recorded in the Bible tell us who were included nor whether faith was present in all the members of the household. If it were that cut and dried there would be no discussion.

Acts 16: 11:14,15 tells about a certain woman named Lydia who believed. We read that she and her household were baptised, but it doesn't tell us who her family members included nor if they had faith." My comments were in response to Prestor's suggestion that in each of these households all the members had faith. Unfortunately we can't substantiate that from the limited information we have. I tend to agree with Pilgrim's quote: "When we read that "salvation has come upon this house", it is NOT to be understood as meaning, that every single individual was given salvation. But rather, that the salvation which was given to those who believed, came into that house(hold)."


Wes

I agree Wes that not all household baptisms give us details regarding who believed or who didn't believe. However, my point was and still is that baptism came to those who heard the Word of God and believed in that household (I am specifically speaking about the adults). Again I must emphasize my belief that those adults who were baptized in the household weren't baptized because of the husband's belief but rather their own. Which I think is the crux of the matter. I can not reconcile these few bits of scripture with the idea that the belief of the head of the household resulted in the baptism of adults who didn't believe. Instead I see the Word of God preached and those in the household who believe being baptized. BUT I must insist that when I say this I am not saying that the children may or may not have been baptized. I will concede that possibility but I can not see that possibility with adults.

yours,