First, this is NOT an argument against what I posted, but a simple statement that God uses secondary means…
Understood. You had a question mark. My answer: All Lutherans embrace secondary means but not all embrace Traducianism.
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Second, please Scripturally prove how this works. Unless you can disprove Scripturally what I have previously posted, according to your view (Traducianism) there exists multiple species by definition and thus you would need multiple Christs for the redemption of all God’s elect? Since there is ONLY one Christ, your view is necessarily false!
You seem to confuse traducianism with evolutionism. Like propagates like in species.
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First, you are changing the subject from regeneration back to the fall …. Second, once again, you failed to address my argument. Third, we know that Lutherans believe that mankind lost the image of God in the fall (of course, then mankind is no longer human by definition, but that is for another thread ), however the question here is about regeneration? Please reply to my argument using Scripture????
Of course, the image of God in man is lost before regeneration due to a horrible corruption of the entire nature, an inborn wicked disposition, and a total enmity against God. However, that does not mean that there is any change to the substance of man. The heretitary disease of original sin has resulted in the lost of image of God and this horrible corruption of the nature.
Your argument is based on a false premise which no Lutheran traducian (who agrees with his confessions) can accept: "God is so transcendent that He no longer works in the world." I have quoted the confessions to prove that God creates and preserves body and soul so no further comment is required; however, here is a quote to show God is also active in regeneration:
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Small Catechism I believe that I cannot by my own reason or strength believe in Jesus Christ, my Lord, or come to Him; but the Holy Ghost has called me by the Gospel, enlightened me with His gifts, sanctified and kept me in the true faith; even as He calls, gathers, enlightens, and sanctifies the whole Christian Church on earth, and keeps it with Jesus Christ in the one true faith; in which Christian Church He forgives daily and richly all sins to me and all believers, and at the last day will raise up me and all the dead, and will give to me and to all believers in Christ everlasting life.
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Adam as the covenant head of mankind (Rom 5:12-21), which includes Eve, imputed total depravity to the race.
You are consistent.
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Please do one at a time, so we can avoid confusion …, but please quote more than just the confessions … that is not an exegesis of Scripture
To save time, what don't you agree with in my Formula of Concord citations?
